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Old 12-05-2005, 06:03 PM   #52 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Lebell
I see people on both sides of *x* issue pulling out the constitution when voters approve crap like this.

For gay marriage inititives, the pro-side (read liberal) side will say that it doesn't matter how many voters vote to ban it, you can't legally vote for discrimination.

Yet here they are trumpeting about the voters "sending a message" which completely flies in the face of the 2nd.

Of course, the argument cuts the other way when conservatives use it.
I feel the exact same way about this as I do Gay marriage and I have been very consistent on my posts with it.

It is the community's right to vote and decide what they want. If they vote against gay marriage or pro gun, it is not up to me to say I disagree. And vice versa, if they vote pro-gay marriage, anti-gun. The voters know what is best for their community and how they want to live. So long as it is not discriminatory against race, religion, etc.

And where I differ on the Constitution than then NRA is I believe that the Constitution says the "federal" government cannot pass laws on weapons but it doesn't say the states or individual communities can't.

On the other hand, I do believe that if you live in SF and own a handgun as long as it never leaves your house you're ok. In other words if an intruder breaks in, threatens you and your family, and you shoot them, I believe you have every right to protect.

But if you walk down the street, and you have a handgun and get caught for some reason, then you should face some punishment.
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