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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
how have the terrorists won? if police want to check ID's on public transportation, especially upon entering federal property, that is completely within their purview. now, if they should be doing random checkpoints on private vehicles asking for ID, then we have a problem.
As far as altering daily schedules.......it's all about privacy rights, correct? So what expectation of privacy do you think you are entitled to on government funded transportation as opposed to private transportation?
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The terrorists hate us for our freedom, so why do we have to give up more of our liberty and freedom than ever before to fight the terrorists? I just can't see the logic there. Why do we have to show ID domestically when we have thousands of undocumented immigrants, illegals, aliens, terrorists, workers or whatever you want to call them coming across the borders everyday? Btw they have been doing random car searches since 9/11 and with DUI checkpoints before then.
I have every expectation of privacy from the government in public as well as private places as outlined in the 4th amendment.
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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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They have no reason to check your papers unless they have probable cause that you are breaking the law. Throughout history governments abusing its own citizens has been a much greater threat than terrorists ever have or will be.