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JemIsExcitement · 12-05-2005, 09:14 AM

"If we weren't, we wouldn't be the individual human beings we obviously are."

Ah, but that's what I was trying to get at with the whole concept of animals being like organic robots. Like I said - animals only move because it's thier niche to do so on this planet. Trees don't move because trees don't need to move. If you said that trees were obviously different, of course you'd be right for a dozen reasons. But it's still inseperable from the 'web of everything'... Imagine a glass of murkey grey water, grey in color because six different colors of paint were mixed in together. Every element from every color still exists - it doesn't "become" grey, it just coincides with the other colors and the molecules become so close together that the overload of color blends to create one single color. I could reference choas theory, but I don't trust my knowledge. It's like when in crappy sci-fi movies they talk about travelling to different dimensions; a dimension is merely a side to something. A box has six dimensions. You can easily isolate just one side, but then it's just a shape, no longer a box. And, if the sides had any variation, it wouldn't be a box either. They all have to be the exact same length width and thickness, but they all play their integral roles as 'sides of a box'. There's one north and it's opposite to the south, and there's a higher one and a lower one, and the east and west, but they're the same. I was trying to emphasis that humans are the same, with a different 'dimension' to them.

And I didn't assume that there was a network; save for the fact that we do move about and we do communicate and share knowledge and teachings. The fact that you have yourself read something that I, someone you've never had the pleasure to meet, have conjoured up shows at least a little. Maybe now there isn't a singularity of human thought, but that doesn't mean there never will be.

By the way, I noticed the Nietzche quote. I was once told that the things I said reminded my friends and family of his philosphies, so I looked him up, and it was the funniest thing I've heard in a while. In books like "Nietzche in 90 minutes" they dumb it down so much that you could pinpoint where he went crazy, because it lists his philosophies as "Will to power, Reoccuring lifespan, and The Superman!"

anyways. yes I will definitely take your advice and look up this Hegel.

12-05-2005, 09:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
JemIsExcitement Upright Location: Crows Landing, CA	"If we weren't, we wouldn't be the individual human beings we obviously are." Ah, but that's what I was trying to get at with the whole concept of animals being like organic robots. Like I said - animals only move because it's thier niche to do so on this planet. Trees don't move because trees don't need to move. If you said that trees were obviously different, of course you'd be right for a dozen reasons. But it's still inseperable from the 'web of everything'... Imagine a glass of murkey grey water, grey in color because six different colors of paint were mixed in together. Every element from every color still exists - it doesn't "become" grey, it just coincides with the other colors and the molecules become so close together that the overload of color blends to create one single color. I could reference choas theory, but I don't trust my knowledge. It's like when in crappy sci-fi movies they talk about travelling to different dimensions; a dimension is merely a side to something. A box has six dimensions. You can easily isolate just one side, but then it's just a shape, no longer a box. And, if the sides had any variation, it wouldn't be a box either. They all have to be the exact same length width and thickness, but they all play their integral roles as 'sides of a box'. There's one north and it's opposite to the south, and there's a higher one and a lower one, and the east and west, but they're the same. I was trying to emphasis that humans are the same, with a different 'dimension' to them. And I didn't assume that there was a network; save for the fact that we do move about and we do communicate and share knowledge and teachings. The fact that you have yourself read something that I, someone you've never had the pleasure to meet, have conjoured up shows at least a little. Maybe now there isn't a singularity of human thought, but that doesn't mean there never will be. By the way, I noticed the Nietzche quote. I was once told that the things I said reminded my friends and family of his philosphies, so I looked him up, and it was the funniest thing I've heard in a while. In books like "Nietzche in 90 minutes" they dumb it down so much that you could pinpoint where he went crazy, because it lists his philosophies as "Will to power, Reoccuring lifespan, and The Superman!" anyways. yes I will definitely take your advice and look up this Hegel. __________________ The world can be a great place sometimes. It's too bad I don't live there.