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Originally Posted by raveneye
So given the announcement of withdrawal of our troops from Iraq by the Pentagon starting in January, I guess that leaves us with two choices. Either (a) we have won the war on terror, or (b) all this rhetoric is, shall we say, a tad inaccurate, and Iraq is not the central do-or-die front of this war, in which we will either be glorious in complete victory or we will die in misery and humiliation, and America will not have surrendered its freedom, security, or way of life.
Gee, I wonder what the right option is?
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Gee, I wonder where you read that all the US troops are leaving. 1/3 of the force, approximately 65,000 troops to leave iraq in one year's time is not the same as declaring full victory and total withdrawl of all troops. Think about what bush has said in the past: That as Iraqis stand up, we will stand down. Don't you think by Nov 2006 enough iraqi troops could be ready to replace the US forces planned for withdrawl? I agree that the date set around the 2006 elections is political, but it is also not set in stone. It is still based on Iraq electing a permanent parlimentary body and having their own forces ready. And if those goals are met, about 25% of the troops will come home, while 10% will be moved to kuwait.
Its almost pointless in arguing with liberals. You whine and cry for years for bush to get an exit plan together and withdrawl the troops. He comes out and says a fraction of the troops will leave iraq dependent on certain factors and you run to the message boards to declare that bush lied some more, that troops leaving either means we won in iraq (which must be a lie) or iraq was never that critical (so bush lied all along).
The reason this country is so divided is not because of bush and the lumpen conservatives. Its because of the jealous, rabid democrats, still bitter after 2 presidential defeats looking for anything to bring down this presidency. You say bush hasn't done anything to bring this country together, but when he does do something remotely similar to what the left asks, are they grateful or even respectful? Clearly, No. There is no point in bush trying to appease the left, when he does he gets more hell from them then he does when he sticks to his guns.
Back to the topic...Where you get this
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Since these goals are not going to be achieved any time in the forseeable future (perhaps in our lifetime), they are a complete contradiction of the Pentagon announcement in the OP.
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I don't know. But bringing home a fraction of the troops as the iraqis stand up for themselves is not changing course, but exactly what has been said all along.