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Old 11-30-2005, 04:35 AM   #38 (permalink)
alansmithee
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Originally Posted by shakran
Bullshit. If you feel compassion for something you don't repeatedly throw it against a wall until it's fatally wounded.
I didn't say they felt compassion for the cat, I'm saying their behavior doesn't mean they lack ability to feel compassion. Two different things.

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Then you're uneducated. Animals have pain receptors just like we do. They have nerves just like we do. And the part of their brains that processes pain is the same as ours.
Again, I said they don't feel pain like humans. I refer you to the link I posted above so you can educate yourself.

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If animals can't feel pain like we do (what the hell does that mean anyway?) then why does a dog that has been beaten cringe when you raise your hand toward it? Obviously the dog finds the pain of being beaten to be unpleasant.
Conditioned response. It doesn't find it "pleasant" or "unpleasant", it's wired so that it cringes from a negative, potentially harmful stimulus. They lack the capacity for suffering that humans do.

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Ahh yes. And anything that's not on your level should be tortured and then killed. Gotcha.
So apparently, when there's no logic in what you say, you retreat into hyperbole?


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Bullshit. No one's advocating torturing people. Of your four quotes from this thread only one involves torture, and it's obvious that it's a visceral reaction that the poster would never carry out.
Ok, so when someone earlier says they initially laughed, but said they wouldn't in real life, you say seek help. But when someone says they want to bash kids into a wall, it's "a visceral reaction that the poster would never carry out" . Some consistency would be nice. Why couldn't laughter be "a visceral reaction that the poster would never carry out" in real life? Or is it easier to make a snap judgement based on your own personal beliefs?



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Maybe, but that's not the TFP.
But much of the reactions are similar, as pointed out in the quotes I posted.


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I did. I didn't see any videos of decapitation, car wrecks, or joking about the same. I saw only angry reactions because people on here feel compassion for living things that suffer. The fact that you do not is disturbing.
What about compassion for children? Many people here seemed to be perfectly willing to beat and torture children for the sake of a cat. Now THAT'S disturbing behavior.

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And again you throw up a quote in which the first half expresses a desire, not an action (I challenge you to prove that the poster would actually go through with throwing the kids up against the wall) and the second part involves teaching children not to torture animals - while you have made it patently clear that you don't think that's something children should be taught, civilized society disagrees with you.
I challenge you to prove anything someone says on a message board. That's a ridiculous statement, on a message board where all you have to go by about others is what they type. You were perfectly fine with telling someone to seek help when they said they laughed, but wouldn't in real life. But when someone expresses a sick desire to abuse children, you need proof that they would carry through? And the backhanded comment about my civility (or lack thereof) was cute, but baseless. Looking at the general punishments carried out for people "torturing" animals would seem to suggest that it's not a big deal. Now however, society does place a very high value on protecting children. So maybe you should be lecturing some other people in this thread about their civility, or lack of.

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And while we're at it, I should point out that the cat was innocent in this matter. It didn't kill the kids or their pets. The kids killed the cat. So being angry enough at the kids to express a desire to hurt them, but not actually go through with it, is much more understandable than to decide to kill a cat just for the sake of killing it.
How do you know the cat is innocent? What if earlier it had tried to claw one of the children? Were you there? Or is it easier to justify child abuse if you try to imagine the poor, widdle, puddy cat was just being tortured and abused endlessly for days by the mean, evil, sadistic children? And again, you keep making the assumption that these people wouldn't go through with child abuse, with no evidence to the contrary.


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How someone who is so out of touch with reality as to think that EVERYTHING anyone says they wish to do, they will actually do can be taken seriously is beyond me.
You seemed to have no problem doing it earlier.


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If the poster actually sought out children and threw them against a wall then I would agree with you. But TALKING about throwing cruel, inhumane children against a wall is MUCH more palatable to me than actually THROWING the cat against the wall.
Again, you mistakenly attach cruelty and inhumanity to these children. It would require a psychological workup to determine if these children really felt they were causing suffering, or were just being kids. At that age, they might not have realized it. And again, your support for child abuse is quite disgusting to me, it points to a deeply disturbed individual. I would seek professional help, or at least not be around children.
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