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Originally Posted by Yakk
I don't see how a rejected comprimise absolves you of your actions afterwards?
"I want to shoot you in the head. I will offer a comprimise -- you give me your money, and I won't shoot you. Oh look what you made me do by rejecting my comprimise!"
Proportional Representation is tricky. I would not be willing to accept any PR system that gave parties (as opposed to MPs) more power than they have right now.
As it stands, if a party kicks an MP out of caucas, and the MP has the same support from voters, the MP gets to remain in parliament. MPs should be more beholden to their voters than to their party.
I also am against any voting system that is not human-verifiable at every stage. Any voting system that requires a computer to tabulate the votes has single-point-of-corruption issues.
More precicely, the virtue of our current system is that corrupting the voting system requires a conspiracy whose size is purportional to the number of votes corrupted. I want to maintain this feature.
Thirdly, locality of representation is important. Being a representative of "green party voters" is one thing, but that makes your constituancy nebulous. MPs should be geographically bound.
Can you generate any PR systems that have these properties?
The current FPTP system has many flaws. I don't want to replace the flaws of the current FPTP system with a system that lacks the virtues of the FPTP system.
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Regarding the compromise... ultimately what it does is make the issue of a Christmas election a dead issue. Neither side can truly get any milage out of it they are both sharing in the repsponsibility of the election timing.
I agree with your take on if vis-a-vis the shooting but that isn't the point in this sort of political posturing... this manouver, gives the opposition an out and renders the "issue of a Christmas election" a non-issue.
As for proportional representation. My feeling on the matter is that it should be a combination of MPs elected by the electorate (based on "locality of representation") as well as representation based on a percentage of the popular vote gaining you X number of seats.
The system still functions as it does now with ballots being counted by "little old ladies in church basements".
How the riding would be redrawn and how the numbers would be carved out is another question.