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Old 11-23-2005, 06:18 AM   #37 (permalink)
pan6467
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What if she's Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Maoist, as pointed out above very eloquently by "The Typist" Mennonite and refuses to swear on a Bible or one with the New Testament? Has she said she is atheist or are people just assuming because she refused to swear in on the Bible.

Her answer was very good, as lifted from the thread starters post =
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"She's not going to swear on the Bible because she is not practising herself, so it would show a lack of respect to the people who have faith,"
Personally, I dislike the idea of any of my leaders swearing on a Bible. It shows that they are biased to one religion and therefore there's no true seperation of church and state. It does in fact show the opposite that the state only recognizes one religion, that of the Judeo Christian Bible.

Also, to me it shows far more honesty by saying, "I don't want to swear on the Bible, because....." than having someone take the oath swearing on the Bible and it truly didn't mean anything to them, it was just show to appease people.

I don't see this as an attack on Christianity, I see it as the opposite...... I see supposed Christians condemning her and a country for following their heart and staying true to thier (the GG and the country) beliefs. Jesus himself said in the Sermon on the Mount,

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Originally Posted by Matthew 7 -1&amp View Post
"Judge not lest ye be judged, for with the judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged and with what measure ye mete it shall be measured to you again."
And here:

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Originally Posted by Matthew 7 - 21-27
Not every one that saith unto me Lord Lord shall enter into the kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in Heaven..... Many will say unto me in that day Lord Lord have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have we cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?..... And then I will profess to them. I never knew you: depart from me ye that work inequity..... Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise manwhich built his house upon a rock......And the rain descended and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not;for it was founded upon rock..... And every one that heareth these sayings of mine and doeth them not shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon sand..... And the rain descended and the floods came and the winds blew and beat upon the house and it fell and great that fall was."
So some should worry more about the beam in their own eyes than to worry about the splinter in their brothers or sisters eye. And televangelists like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and politicians and radio talking heads should take more heed of what Jesus truly said than to pass judgement on others and feel their crap don't stink cause they prophesied His word..... even though they do not know his words.

BTW why would you want to swear on something supposedly so holy to do man's work. Countries were not made by God, governments were not made by God, 99.9% of laws were not made by God nor for God...... so why would I swear to my God to do the work not for him but for something man made that should have nothing to do with God or how I believe in HIm.
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