Thanks for all the comments thus far. I don't have much in particular to respond about, except this:
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Originally Posted by rsl12
I think you're idealizing too much.
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Could very well be, and I thank you for saying it. The thought did cross my mind as I was writing the OP.
I dunno, I don't really need to go back to the (potentially mythical) qualities of the L-D debates. I'm more interested in what we might be able to create in the future.