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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
That could very well be the case for some, but it's not inherent in the concept.
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How is a negative perspective not inherant when someone considers something unnatural? I think you may have a point here, but I'm not making the logical leap on my own.
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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
What about the civil union folk?
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What is the difference between civil unions and marriage? Why is one ok, but the other not? If its the religious connetation, then the matter should be up to the church in question, not mandated by the State or Federal Government. From the government's perspective the two should be identical, and no legal seperation should be required.
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You're assigning one motive to the opposition. But it's not the only possible motive. I didn't say they don't care, I said that they may not care for the reason you attribute to them. And no, it's not up to them to prove their intention, it's up to you. You're making the charge.
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I don't believe I'm assigning one motive. I belive they are proclaiming it pretty loudly with every statement they make. If they care enough to make it UNCONSTITUTIONAL for someone to enjoy the same rights and benefits they enjoy, that pretty much indicates a strong emotional commitment. Given the circumstances, the only emotions available are pretty negative. Something like this isn't approved by 74% of the population based off of puppies and kittens and flowers. This is definitely a "make them sit down, shut up, and go back in the closet" maneuver.
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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
I'm not the best person to ask, but it seems like the two big reasons are protecting marriage (don't ask me how civil unions would be any less harmful) and keeping to a 'traditional' definition of marriage.
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The "tradition" of marriage doesn't exist. It's manufactured. Sure marriage has been around, but largely for political, and financial positioning. It has also rarely been the "nuclear" concept that Americans hold so dear. There is nothing to protect it from. It's not like homosexuality is going to stop if they aren't allowed to get married.
Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt