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Originally Posted by Seaver
You'd be saying the EXACT same thing if there was no vote. How they ran from it instead of debating.
The fact of the matter is 1.5 out of 10 Americans want to pull out of Iraq. The fact of the matter is Iraq will be an incubator for worldwide terrorism (instead of a battlefield it is now) if we pull out. The fact of the matter is there is no possible way of an immediate pull out without us stabbing ourselves in the back and twisting the knife.
If this was about the Senate demanding Bush to give status reports, I'd back you 100%. However you picked the wrong man to back. I respect what he's done but to pull out now would be unleashing hungry wolves in a pediatrician's office. They swiftly answered his call to pull out, it's not going to happen, he got what he wanted.
If he wanted to come out with a plan I'd love to hear it, but calling for the immediate withdrawl sounds like a plan to me. Simply cut and run, god knows I pray it doesnt happen.
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There's no harm in debate and at least giving the opposition the chance to be heard.
If it's true that only 1.5 out of 10 Americans want us to pull out (as you state) then the Dems. would have sounded like idiots to debate such a move.
But to not even let them be heard...... come on, that's bullshit, that is running in fear of what they have to say.
What was the harm in opening the floor allowing them time to say what they had to say and then hold the vote???????
Instead it's put words into their mouth, run an Ethics committee investigation on someone who speaks out and hold a vote without debate.
I'm sorry that sounds like desperation, blackmail and contempt for everything this country supposedly stands for.
BTW, when you refuse to allow the other side to be heard and vote down party lines....it is the exact same thing as no vote. Only now the GOP can proudly say they had a vote and the Dems lost.... what the fucking assholes who blackmail and show contempt for the people won't say or admit to is that they refused to allow any debate.