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Originally Posted by Ustwo
You might recall we did undermine the troops in vietnam then.
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Yup...we sure did! If we had remained silent sheep, with the privileged kids like Bush skipping the waiting list to get into the "champagne unit" of the TANG. and Cheney sporting his 12 draft deferments and his BS crack about "having other priorities". we could have placed another 10000 or 20000 names of lower class black and white draftees, without college draft deferments, on the walls of the Vietnam memorial on the mall in Washington.
You should consider what I am thinking that you might do with your "undermine the troops" BS comment on this board. You have been exposed to too many years of higher education to be talking the way you do. You're too willing to spill the blood of other people's family members in pursuit of unwinnable objectives under unjust circumstances. You weren't faced with living as a draft age male in those times, and you don't have a sense of what it was like. You've had the luxury of "electing" not to serve at this time, and by your own admission, you never ended up doing it. The boys whose names are on the black granite wall did not have the options that you've enjoyed. The swift boating "Op" last summer must have made a strong and misleading impression on you.
The way David Dreier acts can be compared to the way Bush and Cheney acted during the Vietnam war. None of the three of them wanted to wear the stigma of the consequences of their beliefs. Dreier does not want to live openly as the gay man that he is, and Bush and Cheney did not want to live openly as young men who had not intention of serving in Vietnam.
Thank goodness for you, that, unlike me, Bush and Cheney have no personal qualms about sending other people to fight illegal and unjust war. If they did, you would not have Murtha as a target for your accusations of "undermining the troops". Tell me again how unquestioning advocacy of a failed political policy that keeps the troops indefinitely in the field in harms way; some of them for three full tours....is supporting the troops. Murtha is saying that it is not. How do you come to know better than he does?
Stop insulting those of us who attempted to stop the stream of body bags of American troops out of Vietnam.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/17/po...gewanted=print
.......Let me tell you something. We're charged -- Congress is charged with sending our sons and daughters into battle, and it's our responsibility, our obligation to speak out for them. That's why I'm speaking out.
Our military's done everything that has been asked of them. U.S. cannot accomplish anything further in Iraq militarily; it's time to bring the troops home. ...........
.......Q Mr. Murtha, you say -- your first point about bringing them home consistent with the safety of U.S. forces. You know about these matters; what is your sense as to how long that would be?
REP. MURTHA: Well, I think they can get them out of there in six months. I think that we could do it -- you know, you have to do it in a very consistent way. <b>But I think six months would be a reasonable time to get them out of there. .......</b> - Congressman Murtha Nov. 17, 2005
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