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Originally Posted by Ustwo
When someone throws a live grenade into the room, you don't discuss the nature of the grenade, debate its damage, decide if it is indeed live, and then act.
Murtha tossed a live grenade into the Iraq debate, one I found ridiculous and a blatant piece of crap.
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If you find it so ridiculous, why use the preposterous "live grenade" attribution to a mere speech?
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
The idea of a put up or shut up vote is the best idea in quite a while. It is reprehensible to have a mixed message on our fortitude in Iraq when we have men on the ground, and a government trying to form. What sort of message does it give the people dying?!?
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Emotional rhetoric, from you? The people dying don't give a flippen shit about it, but their survivors surely so, both here and in Iraq.
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
You think this is crap? Think what an Iraqi who was told the US would help his country be free and instead hears crap like Murtha's bullshit must be feeling? I'd be fucking terrified.
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Just like Bush the first? Rise up, and we'll have your back?
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
We have a moral responsibility in Iraq now, the validity of the war has no baring on this obligation. Even if it turns out the not only did Bush lie, but he personally forged the intelligence report that moral responsibility does not change. To turn back on this moral responsibility, to even suggest it, is unthinkable.
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For once, I agree with you that we have a moral responsibility to Iraq. Our military presence is now a big part of the insurgency problem. Your solution is what, more of the same and "stay the course?" What friggin course did the Bush administration enter this war with, pray tell?