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Originally Posted by ratbastid
B) At this point, it looks like our options are to leave or to lose. Which do you prefer? Did you read the article you quoted? If so, are you advising keeping our troops in Iraq even though their presence is actually a destabilizing influence? We don't need a "surrender" or a humiliating loss in Iraq to make it look bad for Bush. News flash: IT ALREADY LOOKS BAD FOR BUSH. Now the more sensible members of congress are trying to keep it from becoming a bigger disaster than it already is. They're actually trying hard to save his ass. Where's the gratitude, I ask you?
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So you would rather us leave and the people that go into mosques and weddings on a daily basis, not targetting US troops, but their own countrymen, win? You would rather us withdraw today and leave these people to take over?
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Bloody bombing ends prayer session in Iraq
November 18 2005 at 08:23AM
By Faris al-Mehdawi
Baghdad - Two suicide bombers strapped with explosives killed at least 62 people when they blew themselves up inside crowded Shi'a mosques at prayer time in the north-eastern Iraqi town of Khanaqin on Friday.
A member of the local council said the death toll could exceed 100 after the bombers attacked the two mosques during Friday prayers, destroying the buildings. Another lesser blast was reported near a bank in the town, police said.
Ibrahim Ahmed Bajalan, a member of the Diyala provincial council, said the destruction was so bad that many bodies were trapped in the rubble and couldn't be easily extracted.
"I think there are more than 100 people dead," he said.
A spokesperson for Iraq's Interior Ministry put the toll at 62 killed and 95 wounded, and said the total could rise.
Kamaran Ahmed, the director of Khanaqin hospital, said around 30 of the bodies so far brought in were so badly mutilated it was impossible to identify them.
The attacks in Khanaqin, a mixed Shi'a and Kurdish town north-east of Baghdad near the border with Iran, seemed certain to fuel sectarian tensions ahead of a December 15 election that Washington hopes will pave the way for peace and democracy 2-1/2 years after the US-led invasion.
The Shi'a- and Kurdish-led government and its US backers are fighting a mainly Sunni Arab insurgency that has frequently targeted civilians in crowded places like mosques and markets.
Police said the bombers entered the small mosques with explosive belts strapped to their waists and detonated themselves when the buildings were at their busiest - during prayers on the Muslim holy day.
Earlier this month, nearly 30 people were killed at a Shi'a mosque in the town of Musayyib, south of Baghdad.
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Do you think if we leave this will end? I don't. I think if we leave the terrorists will continue their agenda of terrorizing the iraqi people until they give in and allow a taliban-like regime to control iraq. We don't want that now, do we?