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Originally Posted by highthief
I think they both (dems and republicans) simply CHOSE to believe questionable data. Given how many other world leaders and intelligence agencies outside the US looked at the same or similar data and said "Ah, that's a little thin there boys", I think this is clear.
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You could not make that statement if you read and considered what is contained in my last two posts. A quick synopsis distills my conclusion to the following....(you hail from Canada, hence you may not have fully considered the contents of my posts...I know that they are lengthy...)
1.) The chairman of the senate intelligence committee in 2002, democrat Bob Graham, along with his colleague, committee member, senator Carl Levin made a concerted and vocal effort to provide access to the ambiguity contained in the secret version of the NIE that members of the committee were privy to reading, but their effort was blocked by the white house.
2.) Graham and Levin, faced off against a blistering, and very successful, propaganda "Op" that was widely and repetitively broadcast by Bush, Cheney, et al, while they were exploiting a post 9/11 level of popular support that, two months after the 77 to 23 senate vote for the war resolution, topped at
91 percent of Americans believing the BS in the "Op" rehtoric.
3.) Graham and Levin, and three other democrats who served on the senate intelligence committee vote nay on the Oct. 11, 2002 resolution that authorized the president to use force against Iraq, as he saw fit. It is well documented in my posts that they voted nay because the white house blocked their efforts to allow all legislators access to the classified versions of the reports and to the testimony of senior intelligence officials that the chairman and the members of the intelligence committee were privy to.
4.) A core purpose of house of rep. and senate intelligence committees is to restrict who has access to classified material contained in briefings and testimony from intelligence agencies and from the executive branch. There are 535 total senators and congressmen. By restricting access to the most sensitive information to four people in the legislature....the chairmen and ranking members of the house and the senate intelligence committees, and then restricting access of other classified information and testimony to members of the two committees, who, in total, number less than 30 legislators, there can be much more control of leaks, via the less difficult task of tracking and holding just 30 legislators accountable.
5.) One of the strategic hallmarks of Bush-Cheney "Ops" related to deceit about matters of national security is that they control what is classified, and what is not. They have classified more documents during their tenure than they have allowed open access to. During their propaganda "Op", like the one accusing democrats of "re-writing history", that is ongoing now, and during the "Wilson's CIA wife sent him to Niger and that's nepotism" "Op", these thugs rely on the fact that they can make any accusation that they chose and their targets cannot disclose classified details as a means of refuting the propaganda. It works very effectively against Bush-Cheney political opposition.
6.) Bush-Cheney exploited the 9/11 attacks and the "war president" propaganda to execute an "end run" around the demands of Graham and Levin that an open debate with exposure of all of the ambiguity contained in intelligence analysis, be conducted in the house and the senate. They used the fruit of the success of their well co-ordinated campaign of hysteria that was ramped up to coincide with the one year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, as poltical muscle that existed because of the misguided support of deliberately misinformed Americans. <b>Now, they have the unmitigated gall to launch an "Op" that attempts to spread the BS that all senators in 2002 reviewed the "same intelligence that we reviewed".</b>