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Old 11-17-2005, 10:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Did Bush lie about the intelligence he used to make the case for war against Iraq?
Probably not, because "lie" assumes that the liar actually is aware that what he is saying is untrue. It's unclear what bush is aware of at any given time. His handlers could probably convince him that Santa Ana's forces are back at the Texan border lobbing cannonballs at the Alamo again.

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Were the Democratic Senators duped into voting to authorize the use of force...many of them in both 2002 and 1998?
I think you'll find that the force used was different in 1998 from 2002. There is a difference between a surgical strike and a protracted, full scale invasion. The intelligence that is necessary to justify one is considerably more substantial and convincing than the intelligence necessary to justify the other.

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The number of intelligence agencies reporting the same information as the CIA is staggering, thus rendering the national intelligence conspiracy into an even more moonbat global conspiracy in which even France and Germany were helping to confuse the Senate into authorizing the war.
I don't recall anybody proposing a worldwide intelligence conspiracy. That would be crazy. What people are saying is that the intelligence that was presented to Congress was chosen selectively and selectively redacted in order to bolster the case for a long-term, full-scale invasion of the country. That charge is certainly very plausible given the way things work in Washington. In fact it would be naive to think that wasn't done, given the way the Administration works in general.
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