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Old 11-16-2005, 05:26 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SERPENT7
1) Hitler was an idiot, not a genius. (I cannot back that up directly. Its just an opinion formed over YEARS of reading about him, and the sorts of decisions he made. For instance, he had no understanding of basic strategy, never listened to anyone that tried to speak rationally in his presence,...etc.)
No. That was closer to the end. Hitler was a genius but he was also insane, and the insanity got worse and worse as time went on. By the time he made strategic blunders like converting the ME262 into a bomber he had already largely lost touch with reality.

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2) Other people got Hitler in to power as well. Ever hear of the Thule society? They were an actual conspiracy group of Bavarian businessmen (Mostly bankers). This group found Hitler talking to some out of work german laborers, and they decided he was the man to start thier own rise to power.
Yeah I've heard of them. But the fact remains that Hitler did not need people to prop him up intellectually. He got the germans behind him because he promised them prosperity. And he did it clearly and distinctly in a way that rallied the people behind him. Bush isn't rallying anyone. He's mumbling some incoherent speeches which his people and conservative media hosts are translating into a powerful message.



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3) Hitlers plan was set up for him, and the only time he was EVER succesful at anything is when he obeyed his puppet masters.
That's not true at all. Hitler was VERY successful at oppressing and beginning to exterminate the Jews. He would have succeded if the rest of the world hadn't put a stop to it. And his puppet masters weren't telling him to get rid of the jews - he came up with that idea himself as you'll see if you read Mein Kampf.


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4) He was a total failure at EVERYTHING he put his mind to. He served in WWI, and only made it to corporal. Not exactly a strong endorsment of his leadership abilities, if you know what i mean. After the first war, he was a traveling sign painter, who spent most of his meager pay on beer. (He was also denied entrance to THE national art school as being a poseur impressionist. He sucked. Bad.)

well actually he didn't suck. His art wasn't half bad, as you can see in this painting he did:

http://www.hitler.org/art/buildings/building5.jpg

And remember, just because you're denied entrance to THE art school doesn't mean you suck - it could also mean they're a bunch of jackass snobs.

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5) He was a good public speaker.
Yes, he was. I said that.


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What does this have to do w/ the original post, you ask? Nothing. I just felt the need to correct some things.

That's fine, but your corrections are inaccurate.

Also, please use the quote tags - makes it much easier to read.
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