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Old 11-16-2005, 04:50 AM   #72 (permalink)
simivin
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iBlade,

If you'd like to think that I supported your argument, by all means, go ahead. It is, in some sense, a rite, but not in any intrinsic value of the action but due to cultural/societal influence. I still adhere to my points, however: it does not prove maturity, nor do I think it is a "test" of manhood nor "proving" that you are a man. Like Mal said: "Losing one's virginity does not make a male type person a man. Being a man comes from character and only from character not from whether they have or haven't had sex. It might be a right of passage, but it doesn't make one a man. I know 22 year old virgins who are more of man than a 40 year old fella who's beens fucking around since he was 15..."


Even your clear comparison only makes one point clear: that is how you feel. That's my main contention with the things you've said -- if you want to say that it made you feel more like a man, by all means, go ahead (even if I think you shouldn't need to base anything on that). But to imply that that's the case with everyone, or even a majority, or is inherent as a result of having sex is just ludicrous to me. Ok, it made you feel more confident in yourself, more "cool"; me, I feel worse off (even though my partner is incredible and I'd like to think I am more than adequate). Like I said, look at your "clear comparison" and leave it at that -- it was talking in the first person only.

Sorry, I don't have time to review/revise because I have to get off to work right now. But I'm still interested in hearing what you have to say.

Sim
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