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Old 11-15-2005, 01:32 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Ustwo, I asked for focus on the last 30 years not because I'm willfully ignorant of the prior 200. To judge an administration, you have to do it in the modern era. I think the internment camps were a travesty. I lived a mile away from one when I was a boy (it was a park by then - with a monument to those interned, I'm not 90).

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So as for the last 30 years I really can not say if we have 'lost more rights'. I can say the bill of rights has not been infringed, and its rather difficult to say how the laws on surveillance and such have changed over the last 30 years to know if we have lost anything in the past or more in the last 5 years. I can state that communication technology has greatly changed in the last 30 years and as such, whatever laws we had are quite antiquated, or do you think that in 1975 they foresaw cell phones, the internet, and 128 bit encryption and wrote the laws accordingly?
Which is exactly why I ask about the modern era. Current rules are made due to current technologies and predicaments. Really, you would have to compare Bush jr to Bush sr for the most accurate match. The CIA and FBI have much more leeway to look through your library books, sample your DNA, and listen to your phone calls than they did under Bush sr.

By the way, cell phones and the internet both existed in 1975. I'm sure many people figured they'd be widely used in the near future. My parents were telling me about the net when we lived in California and they worked at IBM way back in the 70's.
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