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filth, isn't that something of an irrational, hateful remark? This could be interesting if we leave the junk at the door.

sailor, is that offhand, or do you really think everyone who doesn't hate Bush thinks he's an angel? I voted for the guy and have been disgusted as often as not. Unfortunately it was a turd sandwich or douchebag choice. We'll likely have another in a couple years.

I've had my moments with every prez for the last 25yrs but it's fairly boring, useless stuff. The guy does a few things I don't agree with and I start categorizing everything as bad. Could start with a decision I passionately disagree with, could be slow and progressive, could just be I'm tired of fighting. Whatever, once we stop looking rationally at effects and motives (on all sides, at all levels) we're just part of the pointless horse race.

My grandfather once told me hate really only hurts one person. I'm not so sure. I agree we've reached a level of partisanship that hurts everyone. Is it useful?

What have you done to improve the situation?

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There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195