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Originally Posted by Dragonknight
I agree with you completely, honestly I really do. The fact sadly is, is this the case in point, NO. In a perfect society yes this would be a completely safe assumption, but in the real world this Sadly is not a safe bet. That's all there is to it. No one is above doing the less then reputable thing, No One. That is life as we know it. I can't be sad about that, because no one is perfect. Every one has there flaws and some ones' flaw is this. Is it expectable NO, but is it probable that at least some one is going to do the less then right thing in this given situation....Sadly, Yes. We are human, and because of this imperfect.
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I'm speachless. I'll have to do something about this.
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Originally Posted by Dragonknight
If you think that, 1 a person comes into my home in a manner that will allow them to kill me first is not a Hit you are sadly mistaken. I say this, because 1 a silencer is COMPLETELY illegal in EVERY STATE in the US; because they're sole purpose is to kill with the utmost amount of stealth as humanly possible. This robber is not here for the valuables (because as you said most thefts are done when the home owner is not at home) they are here for the purpose of murder. How are you going to give the example of a simple robbery taking place with the home owner home? A simple robbery will yes take place when the home owner is not home why, because if you get caught you are only facing a robbery charge not a double or even triple homicide charge, and this is the easiest time to commit a robbery, no one is home; no witnesses no hastle no problems. You even admitted this yourself by saying, "In actuality, most home invasions happen when the house is empty. Rarely will a home owner be in the house when the thief is in the house." Any one who has sophisticated tendency’s (as you yourself said), will rob a home at the easiest time humanly possible, when NO one is home with the smallest amount of trouble. Hell to even get a silencer is one completely hard task, but to get a gun capable of fitting a silencer is even harder. You have to get the barrel of said gun machine cut to have the grooves to fit a silencer. Silencers screw on, NO gun in the US comes manufactured to fit a silencer NO gun that was ever designed for the general populations use. Yes guns for Special Forces/ FBI/ or any government agency are outfitted for this purpose, but NO gun for the general population is outfitted to handle a silencer. You have to specifically look for a gun capable of handling a silencer. Yet another reason for this being not just your average robbery but a Hit.
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Well at least silencers are illegal. Factoring that into the equasion, it would be more difficult to kill someone in their sleep, but that doesn't change a whole lot. The murderer would still surely know that the man of the house would be the one to offer the most resistence. The only change to the scenereo is that the kids might be able to escape, and the neightbors might hear it. Even with those adjustments, you would have been killed without being able to get your gun.
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Originally Posted by Dragonknight
Hopefully gun violence in a home will drop, but will violence in a home in general drop? I think not, violence (in your home) in a different area will go up. Then you will have what I sated in my first post happen. Violence due to knives (just and example) will go up, and I doubt that a law requiring every one in a given area, will have to surrender any sharp object in there home will go into place. You MUST stop those who commit violent crimes in peoples homes, not the means they commit them by. Remember this is a law prohibiting home owners in a given city to own a hand gun, and gun shops in said city to sell hand guns. Not a law to stop guns sales completely, and not in the given state. You can still drive at Most an hour in Any direction and get a hand gun.
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It will become more difficult to get a gun in the city, even if that difficulty is simply driving down to Burlingame or over to the Eastbay. It will at least slow the traffic. And now if you are caught with a weapon, it's all over. The gun will be taken and you will be charged. There is no longer a 'defending mysle' excuse by either those who use guns responsibly or those who have dishonerable intent. That's a big difference.
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Originally Posted by Dragonknight
Honestly Wilravel, Yes I will Completely and Utterly will be for this world. Wars will cease to happen and I will be out of a job. I will happily look for a new job just to lower the chance of my friends or my own death to be drastically lowered. I am more likely to die before my 50ith B-Day because of my given profession, should I chose to stay in this profession. My job in a nut shell is to kill people should the need arise. That's the sad, but true truth. Any one in the military should realize that. If your in an organized Fighting force, your Primary job is to fight; bottom line. The people that Most often Wish for the need to fight and have guns go away, are the Very people whose jobs it is to be proficient in using those guns. We all wish for a better world every time we wake up in another country away from our family, friends, and homes. Will that world come to be a reality any time soon......I (with the utmost confidence and Sadness) think not.
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Do you mind if I ask what your profession is? I admit to having a general idea (soldier, policeman, Bureau, etc.). With any of those, your first job, in my opinion, is to protect and serve the people of your community, state, or country. Any of those jobs has a primary use as saving lives, giving aid, etc. BTW, kif you are in any of those groups, I apprciate that you put your life on the line to help others. Defending the defenceless is a great calling.
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As a side not[e], I'm Very happy to live in a country that will allow me to have a conversation about conflicting ideas with another adult without violence or any derogatory remarks. I thank every one who participated in this discussion, especially you Willravel as you are the one who is the most opposed to my opinion. I'm very happy to find a website that will support this very action. This gives me a warm fuzzy [feeling]. Keep them coming Willravel, I look forward to waking up in the morning and seeing what you or any one else has to say.
Dragonknight (Frank for those who know me)
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I couldn't agree more.
God bless America, and God bless communities and furums like TFP!