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Dragonknight · 11-12-2005, 12:01 PM

It never seams to amaze me how people always blame the means to and end rather then those who seek the end. Why oh why are you going to blame guns for hurting people instead of people? Lets just for kicks say that guns were completely illegal in homes period. Now lets say death due to guns goes down, hell lets even say the percentage goes down a lot. What will happen next? I think deaths due to other means will go up, hell I'll even say deaths due to other mean will go up a lot. Now you have someone who wants to make a law saying that knives (for example) are no longer legal in a home because of how high the death rate due to knives is. What the hells next then baseball bats, forks, heavy objects? Guns are only the easy means to an ends. This doesn't even account for the instances when it's just someone who doesn't know how to handle a gun killing themselves or others. That's just plain ignorance on there part for playing with something that 1 they shouldn't have been playing with, because guns are NOT toys. 2 never should have been handling the gun in the first place because they were never properly taught how. NO matter what any one says a gun NEVER not EVER has hurt anyone on it's own accord. Not once in the history of guns has this happened. It's always been at the end of an o so intelligent persons. I don't mean to come off like a dick and I'm Very Sorry if I have, honestly I didn't mean to. The simple fact is that guns do not hurt people, people do. If not with a gun then a person will find something else that will get the job done just the same.

Also Willravel I'm very sorry to hear about your losses, I truly am. Like Cj2112 said it most likely wasn't a legally acquired weapon, nor was it a legally carried one. Another thought, I've been to Iraq twice and shot at more then a couple of times. Now I went with the military knowing FULL well that there was a damn good chance of me getting shot at or shot. Now if your friend was in the military when he was in Iraq, he knew that getting shot was a hazard of the job, bottom line. Even if he wasn't in the military or working with them he was in Iraq, not one of the safest places in the world right now. He's very lucky he only lost a leg. I've see the coffins of a few friends who never left alive and guns didn't kill them IED's (improvised explosives device) did. On top of all that, the explosives didn't kill them, people did with what ever that had at there disposal. I'm quite sure if the people that were trying to kill us could do it with just a knife, they'd be just as happy to use that.

Finally, because of the fact that I want to have the means at my disposal to protect my family in my home I own a legal and registered gun. I keep it because if anyone ever comes into my home and threatens my wife's or my own life I will do what ever I have to do to see them stopped. If they come into my home with a gun, I will have a pretty good feeling that it will not be a completely legal weapon and will be on equal footing. If they have a knife or some other weapon then I will have a foot up on them and a better chance to stop them. (and know it doesn't always have to mean there death, but it can) If someone tells me that I don't have the right to be able to protect my family and myself to the fullest, then to me they are wrong. I don't want to live in a city that (like Im2smrt4u said) any criminal knows the average person can't have a gun. Now they have nothing to fear in breaking-in to steal, do harm or what ever they hell they want to. They will know that there's little chance of someone being able to protect themselves against a gun.

11-12-2005, 12:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dragonknight Insane Location: Hawaii	It never seams to amaze me how people always blame the means to and end rather then those who seek the end. Why oh why are you going to blame guns for hurting people instead of people? Lets just for kicks say that guns were completely illegal in homes period. Now lets say death due to guns goes down, hell lets even say the percentage goes down a lot. What will happen next? I think deaths due to other means will go up, hell I'll even say deaths due to other mean will go up a lot. Now you have someone who wants to make a law saying that knives (for example) are no longer legal in a home because of how high the death rate due to knives is. What the hells next then baseball bats, forks, heavy objects? Guns are only the easy means to an ends. This doesn't even account for the instances when it's just someone who doesn't know how to handle a gun killing themselves or others. That's just plain ignorance on there part for playing with something that 1 they shouldn't have been playing with, because guns are NOT toys. 2 never should have been handling the gun in the first place because they were never properly taught how. NO matter what any one says a gun NEVER not EVER has hurt anyone on it's own accord. Not once in the history of guns has this happened. It's always been at the end of an o so intelligent persons. I don't mean to come off like a dick and I'm Very Sorry if I have, honestly I didn't mean to. The simple fact is that guns do not hurt people, people do. If not with a gun then a person will find something else that will get the job done just the same. Also Willravel I'm very sorry to hear about your losses, I truly am. Like Cj2112 said it most likely wasn't a legally acquired weapon, nor was it a legally carried one. Another thought, I've been to Iraq twice and shot at more then a couple of times. Now I went with the military knowing FULL well that there was a damn good chance of me getting shot at or shot. Now if your friend was in the military when he was in Iraq, he knew that getting shot was a hazard of the job, bottom line. Even if he wasn't in the military or working with them he was in Iraq, not one of the safest places in the world right now. He's very lucky he only lost a leg. I've see the coffins of a few friends who never left alive and guns didn't kill them IED's (improvised explosives device) did. On top of all that, the explosives didn't kill them, people did with what ever that had at there disposal. I'm quite sure if the people that were trying to kill us could do it with just a knife, they'd be just as happy to use that. Finally, because of the fact that I want to have the means at my disposal to protect my family in my home I own a legal and registered gun. I keep it because if anyone ever comes into my home and threatens my wife's or my own life I will do what ever I have to do to see them stopped. If they come into my home with a gun, I will have a pretty good feeling that it will not be a completely legal weapon and will be on equal footing. If they have a knife or some other weapon then I will have a foot up on them and a better chance to stop them. (and know it doesn't always have to mean there death, but it can) If someone tells me that I don't have the right to be able to protect my family and myself to the fullest, then to me they are wrong. I don't want to live in a city that (like Im2smrt4u said) any criminal knows the average person can't have a gun. Now they have nothing to fear in breaking-in to steal, do harm or what ever they hell they want to. They will know that there's little chance of someone being able to protect themselves against a gun. __________________ Freedom is NOT Free.