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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
ID was created solely to conflict with evolution and wedge creationism back into the classroom. that's why people have gotten so excited about it.
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ID was created by God, it was misinterpreted and/or misused to try and take on science by some dudes. It's a misguided attempt to attack something that they fear is attacking them. For those of you clinging onto ID, don't worry about it. God exists and you don't need to get angry that some people are okay with being logical about the world around them. God doesn't want us to force Him onto people. He wants people to accept him openly. God is great in church. Science is great in the lab and at school.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
ID is about god. the whole 'it could be aliens' thing is just a nice way for the propents of ID to say 'well, uh, it doesn't have to be god... it could be aliens... we don't really talk about the designer anyways.'
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I couldn't agree more. Unless you consider God to be an alien.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
so how would you identify the tools used by a god to design life, to design and create a universe? not only that, why would god need tools. according to genisis, he just needed to say 'let there be...'
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Exactly. There are no tools acording to religion. God didn't use a really big phillips screwdriver in Genesis.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
as to finding the designer, short of god beaming himself down to earth and holding a press conference and magic show, it's not giong to happen.
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I'd totally watch that.
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Originally Posted by hannukah harry
with uri, we can tell he's full of shit when he fails the test of bending the spoon. but how do we test a supernatural claim when the only people making that claim aren't the source of the supernatural event?
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Not bending a spoon, that's for sure.