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Old 11-11-2005, 11:20 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't know what is ASH (alt.suicide.holiday) today, but I was a regular there for a year or so (years ago). The group does not promotes suicide but it sees suicide as an alcceptable choice and if you are willing to commit suicide you will find a fact file there (sort of "how to").

But the group provides also a place to talk about depressions and suicidal thoughts without the usual shallow responses you get from the "shiny happy people". I still see it as a very useful group.

In my opinion if the Parents failed to realise the condition of their daughter they have no right to blame the group, thats too easy.
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