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Old 11-07-2005, 09:12 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roachboy
... particularly in that it is rooted in some bizarre notion of a "franco-muslim psyche" which presumably lets you not think about, say, that most of the rioters are kids and that they themselves say that this is about the routine violence directed against them
just kids eh? are we talking about kids about the age of those that stormed the U.S. embassy in tehran or about the age of palestinian suicide bombers? i'm not drawing lines between the motivations of the french muslims and those other cases, but it's quite apparent that age has little to do with it. "they themselves" say it's about such and such? you take the word of people burning cars in the street at face value and have the nerve to label other's opinions as basic?

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and if you did any research into this population, you would find out quickly that the main muslim organizations in france are quite conservative, quite close to the french government and so would obviously have no real interest in or influence over these communities--in fact everyone who has actually looked at these riots agrees that there is no religious dimension to the action. including the kids themselves.
once again your rationale leads you to believe that those who see the situation differently than you must speak out of ignorance. labeling others stupid and racist will only take you so far.

though not many of us have had the opportunity to be embedded w/french marxists, i think you'd be surprised at how much personal experience i've had with french muslims.
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