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Old 11-05-2005, 04:33 PM   #37 (permalink)
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everyone is entitled to their fantasy lives, powerclown, and if it floats your boat to imagine those who oppose the bush administration as threatening some kind of reign of terror, then have at it.
just dont pretend that this is relevant to anything, beyond maybe a glimpse into a curious psychological space you occupied for the length of time it took you to write the last paragraph in your last post at least.

i also do not see where you get a sense of glee on my or anyone else's part at ths shambles this administration has made: like you, i have to live here and, like you, i will have to live through the consequences of what these people are doing.
one of the central space being damaged is political.
one of the central aspects of that damage comes in the simultaneous draining of any meaning behind the discourses of morality and democracy.
if the american talk about democracy on the one had and practice (but hide, that is practice but in secret) the worst forms of arbitrary state violence--but that is what torture is, powerclown--it is not cunning, it is not wiliness, it is not an attribute you would attribute to a fantasy hunter in some cartoon (tarzan maybe)--it is the worst form of arbitrary state violence.

there is only suspicion--then there is disappearance and torture and because that torture is clandestine, suspicion would seem to be effectively a death sentence. what leads you to think that suspicion is an adequate ground for death? for torture? unless you really believe that americans are so close to god (who?) that they need not worry about the possibility of--say--being wrong, then i do not see how you can possibly endorse anything like the arbitrary use of state violence--not in this situation---not in any situation.
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