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Originally Posted by martinguerre
Irrational self-hatred is a pathological affect.
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A book that they're brought up to believe as word of God states that homosexuality is wrong. Doesn't sound all that irrational to me. Wrong, but not irrational.
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If they're celibate...that probably puts them in another category entirely, one i haven't seen.
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Yeah, I'm not talking about the risk-takers. Although it's certainly possible for a "slip" to be followed by genuine remorse, confession, and penance.
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Simply, there is no rational reason for claiming that queer marriage is not the funcational equivalent of hetero marriage. Treating people differently for unsubstantiated reasons is discrimination, a failure to regard the all as equal before the law.
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And again, I'd state that substantiated rational reasons can appear to exist. It's just that none of them stand up to intense scrutiny from what I've seen. "There's no possibility of procreation" can, on a couple superficial layers, be seen as substantiation.
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If you want to live the unexamined life *snip*
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Not UNexamined, insufficiently examined. We're not talking about idiots here.
If you want one of these "idiot" closet cases to remain an "idiot", the best thing to do is to treat him as nothing but a harmful enemy who could never be shown the errors in his thinking. Maybe some can't, but I'd rather not make such a careless blanket assumption.
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Would you make any of these arguments based on race? Or wouldn't that make you a racist?
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I don't see the two as analogous because I don't see any arguments even superficially sound that aren't racist. Well, except for "marriage isn't a right and should be removed from the public sphere, rather than expanded".
Perhaps it'd be better to choose an issue that relates to Steele?