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Old 11-05-2005, 12:52 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
.......If Dick Cheney did something wrong, then he will get checked by our legal system, he will be held accountable. But since the line of action towed by the administration has been both historically and recently upheld by the Supreme Court and lower federal courts, found to be in tune with the spirit of our constitution, then obviously nothing will happen to him, the man did nothing wrong.
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1001434514
<b>More Fodder for Press: Wilkerson Charges Cheney Responsible for Prisoner Abuse</b>

By E&P Staff

Published: November 04, 2005 2:30 PM ET

NEW YORK His initial blast, on Oct. 19, at a luncheon in Washington, D.C. drew wide press attention. Now Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, is at it again. In an interview for National Public Radio <b>he charged that Vice President Cheney's office--and new chief aide David Addingtoon--was responsible for directives which led to U.S soldiers abusing prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.</b>

Wilkerson said he had some hard evidence: a trail of memos and directives authorizing questionable detention practices up through Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's office directly to Cheney's staff. The directives, he said, contradicted a 2002 order by President Bush for the military to abide by the Geneva Convention rules against torture.

The former Powell aide, in his October statements, declared that Cheney and Rumsfeld operated a "cabal" that had hijacked U.S. foreign and military policy.

Now, talking to NPR, he said, "There was a visible audit trail from the Vice President's office through the Secretary of Defense, down to the commanders in the field," authorizing practices that led to the abuse of detainees.”

He said that Powell had assigned him to investigate this after stories emerged about U.S troops abusing detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he was “privy to the paperwork, both classified and unclassified, that the secretary of State asked me to assemble on how this all got started.”

Wilkerson called Addington "a staunch advocate of allowing the president in his capacity as commander-in-chief to deviate from the Geneva Conventions."

The former Powell aide is 31-year military veteran and former director of the Marine Corps War College. Some have noted that he often expresses what Colin Powell believes, but can't or won't say.
Wilkerson has become a loud and persistent critic of Cheney and Rumsfeld who will likely prove difficult for them to discredit, especially if he has the evidence that he claims to have, and if he can provoke enough of a response from these thugs that they react by attacking Colin Powell.

In my earlier post, concerning Stephen Hadley's Nov. 2 press briefing; it appeared from the "trust us to hold abusers of detainees in secret CIA prisons, if they do exist, accountable, when no one is looking", it seemed as if Hadley had not been reading the newspapers. The following report indicates that Cheney probably isn't reading them, either.

Are these thugs for real? Who won the world series in the parallel universe where the folks who attempt posts here that try to "explain it all away", live?
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110401451.html
Cheney Seeks CIA Exemption to Torture Ban

By DAVID ESPO and LIZ SIDOTI
The Associated Press
Saturday, November 5, 2005; 1:11 AM

WASHINGTON -- Vice President Dick Cheney made an unusual personal appeal to Republican senators this week to allow CIA exemptions to a proposed ban on the torture of terror suspects in U.S. custody, according to participants in a closed-door session.

Cheney told his audience the United States doesn't engage in torture, these participants added, even though he said the administration needed an exemption from any legislation banning "cruel, inhuman or degrading" treatment in case the president decided one was necessary to prevent a terrorist attack.

The vice president made his comments at a regular weekly private meeting of Senate Republican senators, according to several lawmakers who attended. Cheney often attends the meetings, a chance for the rank-and-file to discuss legislative strategy, but he rarely speaks.

In this case, the room was cleared of aides before the vice president began his remarks, said by one senator to include a reference to classified material. The officials who disclosed the events spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the confidential nature of the discussion......

.......Arizona Sen. John McCain dissented, officials said.

McCain, who was tortured while held as a prisoner during the Vietnam War, is the chief Senate sponsor of an anti-torture provision that has twice cleared the Senate and triggered veto threats from the White House.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...top_world_news
McCain Vows to Add Abuse Wording to All Senate Bills (Update1)

Nov. 4 (Bloomberg)

.......... McCain said his intent is to prevent abuses such as those at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. He vowed today that his measure would be ``on every vehicle that goes through this body'' until it's enacted into law. ``It's not going away,'' he said on the Senate floor. ``This issue is incredibly harmful to the United States of America and our image throughout the world.''

President George W. Bush threatened to veto the entire defense spending bill over McCain's amendment. More recently, the White House offered to go along if Central Intelligence Agency agents working overseas were exempt from any restrictions. The CIA is holding accused terrorists at secret prisons in Eastern Europe, The Washington Post reported Nov. 2.

McCain, who himself was tortured as a prisoner during the Vietnam War, said he had ``no idea'' why the White House was pushing the CIA exemption. That loophole ``would be totally unacceptable,'' McCain said earlier this week, adding he's communicated that view to Vice President Dick Cheney..........
This is going to progress similarly to the Cheney WMD lies that were unquestioningly embraced and repeated, ad infinitum, by Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, and by folks here who display a curious and remarkable ability to ignore all reports that point to the conclusion that these "leaders" are war criminals.

We'll explore.....and post what we find out.....you'll ignore.....you'll gradually stop challenging what we post, as you eventually stopped challenging our opinions concerning the non-existence of WMD in Iraq....or in fantasy re-location sites.

Consider that there would be no "secret" CIA prisons, no torture, and no Bush or Cheney still holding high office, if you stopped supporting them last year when their WMD "fact fixing" was exposed for what it actually was....
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