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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Read above you can't proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Bush knowingly falsified information. Being the President he is allowed to act in good and to execute any laws passed by congress.
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But...it was clear more than a year ago that the WMDs and Al Qaeda links to Iraq were totally wrong. Since then we have continued to defend our position that we are right. We were wrong. We have continued to act in Iraq as we did when we thought there were WMDs and Al Qaeda links. I can't prove the information was falsified, but it seems to be seaping out as we speak. We know that Bush wanted a war with Iraq before 9/11, and then suddenly false ties came forward in the intelligence community after orders from the White House came to look for those connections. In other words, the war was forced. That is a fact. There is simply no disputing that. Even if Bushco was grossly incompetant instead of dishonest, that is still wrong. We were looking for a fight. By doing so he has obviously put us in more danger today than before the war on Iraq, as global terrorism is up many times what it was before the war. He has failed to protect the American people from threats both foreign and domestic, which is a big part of his job.
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
It does take balls to win a war. You need fortitude, you need to believe you are fighting for the greater good, I happen to think we are. I also think you need to be more ruthless then your enemies, like stated I think anybody standing against us is getting off easy.
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We do not live in the Wonderful World of Disney. In this world believing that you are right and being brave does not win wars. I am sorry, but you are very much wrong in saying that you need bravery, espically ruthless bravery, to win.
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Aer they the downing street memos? I thought those were the ones accusing Blair of the same shit as Shrub. Thanks for clarifying, but the point remains the smae in light of the name of the fucking papers.
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They implicate Bush and Blair. That's pretty detrimental to your argument.
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
By and large, I don't hate on these insurgents. I think they are fucking morons, making their case way worse, but if I were in the same situation I would probably fight too. They would be smart to work in the system, that would get us out of Iraq faster, something both of us want. Like I said to win you must be committed and have fortitude, these cats have it, dissenters here ruin and impede our effort and thats why we will lose this fight. I do not side with the terrorists, with people like Zarqawi, he is not a Freedom fighter, he is a sociopath and should be impaled on a fucking stick.
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I didn't accuse you of hating the Iraqi rebels, I implied that you don't understand them. You suggested that they have no interest in truth or justice. That is wholely incorrect. Their intention is to remove an outside military force from their land. Again, from their persopective they are on the side of right and the side of justice. How many million Iraqi's did we kill through sanctions? We are not savoirs.