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Originally Posted by politicophile
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If Host is right about this one, it just goes to show you how little the Democrats care about winning the war in Iraq and how incredibly gullible they were back when the war was still under discussion. Read on...
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Again....one of the arguments in your quote box about the Clinton admin. "consensus" about the threat from Iraq is called into question, just three weeks after Clinton left office:
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Tenet Feb. 7, 2001:
".... and his ability to project power outside of Iraq's borders is severely limited, largely because of the effectiveness and the enforcement of the no-fly zones.His military is roughly half the size it was before the gulf war and remains under a tight embargo.
http://www.usembassy.it/file2001_02/alia/a1020708.htm
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As far as the "democrats appearing indecisive on issues of national security if they don't do and say...blah, blah, blah....
A non-partisan special federal prosecutor, brimming with integrity, indicted the "national security" VP's COS/NS advisor, just a few days ago, on five charges related to lying under oath about the outing of the identity of a CIA "operative" who was engaged in the discovery of WMD threats. This is a prosecutor who also said that the president's most important assistant is still under investigation in the same "cover up".
The record won't go away. Putting it on the democrats won't work. We get two tacts, in terms of responses to what I post...over and over....on TFP Politics......
1.)Posts similar to yours...and stevos....and Scotty McClellans...attempting to put it on the democrats...
2.)No response.....
One more time.... Bush-Cheney and their defenders own this issue:
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in520830.shtml
Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11
WASHINGTON, Sept. 4, 2002
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"Go massive ... Sweep it all up. Things related and not."
Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld
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(CBS) CBS News has learned that barely five hours after American Airlines Flight 77 plowed into the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld was telling his aides to come up with plans for striking Iraq — even though there was no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the attacks.
That's according to notes taken by aides who were with Rumsfeld in the National Military Command Center on Sept. 11 – notes that show exactly where the road toward war with Iraq began, reports CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin......
.....Now, nearly one year later, there is still very little evidence Iraq was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks. But if these notes are accurate, that didn't matter to Rumsfeld.
"Go massive," the notes quote him as saying. "Sweep it all up. Things related and not."
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I'm using the same tactics that I used when falsehoods (and deluded fantasies) about the existence of Iraqi WMD were posted on threads here, month after month, even after the Duelfer report had it made it quite clear that there were no WMD, and even after Scott McClellan admitted on Jan. 12, 2005, that no WMD would likely be found....ever.
It took a few more months of posting McClellan's quotes from this Jan. 12, 2005, "gaggle":
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0050112-7.html
.......... Q The President accepts that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
MR. McCLELLAN: Well, he said back in October that <b>the comprehensive report by Charles Duelfer concluded what his predecessor had said, as well, that the weapons that we all believed were there, based on the intelligence, were not there.</b> And now what is important is that we need to go back and look at what was wrong with much of the intelligence that we accumulated over a 12-year period and that our allies had accumulated over that same period of time, and correct any flaws.
Q I just want to make sure, though, because you said something about following up on additional reports and learning more about the regime. <b>You are not trying to hold out to the American people the possibility that there might still be weapons somewhere there, are you?</b>
<b>MR. McCLELLAN: No,</b> I just said that if there are -- if there are any other reports, obviously, of weapons of mass destruction, then people will follow up on those reports. I'm just stating a fact. ............
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but....finally the BS stopped. I am prepared to do the same thing here. The record speaks for itself. The Bush administration <b>owns</b> the issue of starting an illegal, war of aggression. The record demonstrates beyond a doubt that it was a premeditated conspiracy. Finally, there has been an indictment of an architect of this illegal war, on matters related to the enforcement of the coverup of the deception, itself. The Bush administration presented the case for war, in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.
"Posters for Bush-Cheney" will reluctantly and finally (It's taking longer than it did with the WMD controversy) cease posting content and opinion similar to what is contained in your post, politicophile, when you all develop a sense of how you appear to others who draw conclusions from the actual record of dccumented reports, and not from unsubstantiated opinion that predominates in a partisan, parallel universe, that most of us have never visited.