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Originally Posted by stevo
This is where it all comes from...and they still believe this shite.
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I never claimed he stole the election, and I was willing to give him a chance, but I dislike his policies economically, socially and globally and I feel he is doing more to damage the US as a whole than to advance it.
As for the war, I think there is enough evidence to raise these questions. But in all fairness we should also call on Clinton who bought into the WMD during his term.
There isn't any dispute over Afghanistan and their links and why we are there, is there?
You show no true argument why we should be there, other than to repeat what the Administration says at the time, and when anyone questions you resort to your reply, which is the standard GOP talking head reply of attack on issues that have no bearing, so that you can point to a reason for hatred and dismiss facts that surround a war that in all likelihood we were duped into starting, that has no end in sight and that this very administration has changed the reasons for starting many, many, many times on record.
On a side note, off topic:
There are always going to be people who claim Bush was not elected, and in forums like these where people don't listen and just tend to keep spouting the same tired rhetoric (which I do also in some topics), it is easy to let emotions come into play. It doesn't change the facts, it doesn't change the argument, but when someone slips and says Bush wasn't elected or this or that... it allows the other side to change focus on the true topic and facts being debated. It is a tactic EVERY SINGLE REGULAR (MYSELF INCLUDED) IN THIS FORUM HAS USED AT LEAST ONCE. Some use it more often than others.
It's human nature to use these tactics when a belief is being challenged and you cannot come up with a justification of your belief. Not saying your belief is wrong, or that is any less valuable or important than anyone else's, but sometimes we have our beliefs and we just cannot think of how to explain why we believe a certain way, so we diffuse, redirect and try to shift focus.