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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
Funny you should bring up Clinton, the king of technicalities. When he was selling missile technology to the Chinese, I don't recall anyone being concerned about the risk to American lives.
Guess they were too busy discussing what the definition of "is" is. It also looks like Libby has a great deal more class than Clinton, even though he's not guilty, according to this:
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Indicting a man for "outing" an agent whose cover has been blown for ten years is certainly, to use your words, "bullshit and a technicality." |
Marv, I'm gonna try to set aside my surprise and frustration resulting from reading your paste up of a Bill Gertz report from the Washington Times.
Marv, the times is not a real "news" paper, and Bill Gertz is not a real reporter. It's not just my opinion, Marv. Consider the following:
Here is a copy of Gertz's early "coverage" of the Plame leak story:
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http://www.gertzfile.com/gertzfile/ring102403.html
Leak probe
FBI agents have conducted the first round of questioning at the White House, talking to senior officials who may have disclosed the identity of Valerie Plame, the CIA unofficial cover case officer whose identity was disclosed in a syndicated column in July.
A source close to the White House tells us that the FBI agents conducted casual questioning apparently to entrap any leakers. The agents did not take sworn statements from the staff members because lying to an FBI agent during questioning is a crime.
Officials also tell us that Mrs. Plame and her husband, former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, had a party at their house in early July that included several members of the press. The party has raised questions among some officials about whether Mrs. Plame may have given up her covert status under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act by mingling with reporters.
The FBI is not happy about hunting leakers in the White House. "We've got a lot of terrorists out there to look for," one agent noted.
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Now that may seem like a legitimate, objective news filing to you, Marv, but I'm guessing that most members of this forum would not agree.....
No other reputable, MSM news organization distributed Bill Gertz's story that you cited. Gertz attributed no verifiable source, and it is reasonable to believe that the "facts" he quoted....Cubans intercepting and reading the material intended for the Swiss embassy in Cuba, Russian knowledge of Plame's identity...etc., would be classified information, Marv, since the CIA neither confirms or denies such matters, and illegal to disclose by CIA employees...to Gertz !
You may not be aware of this, Marv, but the same partisan hack who I posted about earlier on this forum, Victoria Toensing....led the "charge" with the filing of an Amicus brief to the very DC Circuit Court of Appeals, three judge panel, who ruled that Cooper and Miller must testify in Fitzgerald's inquiry, or go to jail for contempt!
Here is the rub, Marv. Toensing filed the brief with no accompanying affidavits. She cited Bill Gertz's article, the same one that you posted, as the heart of her argument that "no crime was committed", if Plame's name was leaked to the press by Novak, or by anyone else. Toensing made a less than convincing argument to the appeals court in defense of her friend, Novak, Marv. Here is the link to the PDF file of Toensing's brief:
http://www.bakerlaw.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/10159/Amici%20Brief%20032305%20(Final).PDF
Gertz's article is cited with footnote (7), on page 8 of the Amicus brief, (page 31 of the PDF file package.)
Toensing and her husband are law partners and former federal prosecutors. Is it not curious, Marv, that Toensing did not (or could not) support her brief with a sworn affidavit from....say....Bill Gertz....attesting to the accuracy of the information in his CIA/Plame story, since it is so important to what Toensing purported to convince the court of...that Plame's cover was already blown....due to CIA incompetence and lax security?
Toensing did not include an affidavit from anyone about any point that she made in her brief. An affidavit from one of Gertz's unidentified sources, or from anyone else...to coroborate the "facts" in his article, or of any others included in her brief, might have made it more difficult for the appeals judges to overlook it, and rule in Fitzgerald's favor.
It does not matter now if you think that "no crime was committed", Marv. Fitzgerald and the three judge panel of the DC circuit court of appeals disagree with your opinion. The ubiquitous and ultra partisan Toensing took her best shot and convinced the court of nothing, Why does she and Bill Gertz seem so convincing to you? Read the background that I posted about her and her husband and it is easy to see that she has no credibility.
If you really believe that Libby is "not guilty", Marv, you are in for a "no WMD were found", type of a let down. Remember how that one felt...or is it still slowly sinking in ?
Rove escaped indictment, Marv, because he agreed to be Patrick Fitzgerald's "bitch". Rove will testify against Libby to solidify Fitzgerald's case against him.
Fitzgerald is smart enough to know that if he had indicted Rove for perjury, as he easily could have, Libby's attorney would point out in court that Fitzgerald himself believes Rove to be an unreliable witness who has perjured himself on the witness stand, previously. The way Fitzgerald orchestrates Libby's prosecution, currently, he has given Rove every incentive to cooperate to avoid being charges, while maintaining Rove's credibility as a witness against Libby, and who can predict, who else. It's gonna be fun to watch Marv.
We get to see the enforcer of a criminal band of thugs, masquerading as the Executive Branch of the USA, be exposed for who he is and what he was doing. It's getting tougher to be on the wrong side of this, Marv, just as it was to defend the "mission" to invade and occupy Iraq. You advocate and apologize for thugs, Marv....war criminals, liars, torturers...traitors. You gotta start to wonder, at some point, Marv, what your advocacy says about you.