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Originally Posted by pigglet
that was my entire point. airport does not equal school.
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I never argued that a school and an airline were the same thing.
Do you believe that public schools are "heavily subsidized" and "near monopolistic"?
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Originally Posted by pigglet
my point with the amount of federal $$$ that goes to bail out the airline industry every year is that I find the argument that airlines are private companies to be fallacious if you follow the $$$ trail.
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Do you believe that the property of a business that receives government subsidies is just as private as the property of a person who receives government subsidies in the form of welfare, food stamps, etc.?
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Originally Posted by pigglet
they are only "privately" owned because we can't allow them to fall into bankruptcy, because they are a de facto public form of transportation, particularly in the US.
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See my comment above.
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No, nor is it particulary necessary anywhere. It's not necessary in the street, it's not necessary at the mall, etc. Following this argument, there would be very few places where the exchange of ideas is actually necessary; to argue that freedom of speech only applies in these places will very strictly limit where one can speak freely, no?
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I haven't argued that the right to freedom of speech - or any individual right, for that matter - should only be allowed when it is considered necessary.
I do maintain that free exchange of ideas is necessary to a good education, though.
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Originally Posted by pigglet
see above. that's not actually my argument for where I feel freedom of speach should apply, but rather my opinion of the airline industry.
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Here is what you said:
"I think as a customer, using a heavily subsidized form of near monopolistic transportation, she should have some expectation to free speech."
If that was only your opinion of the airline industry rather than an argument for freedom of speech, why did you mention the customer's "expectation to free speech"?
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Originally Posted by pigglet
yes, and it's rather different from a lot of other areas.
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Different in what way?
Should schools be treated any differently than any other entity that is paid to provide a service?
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what other rights do private businesses have? what other rights should they have. i think it's important to separate those aspects that are my opinion of what i would prefer, and which aspects are legally binding, which i think is covered in above posts.
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We need to remember that rights and laws aren't the same thing. The law is frequently used to deny business owners their basic rights to choose to hire or not hire anyone for any reason, etc.