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Old 10-20-2005, 09:17 PM   #91 (permalink)
Telluride
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Originally Posted by pigglet
using that argument, you'd have to attend airport 180 days/year until you were 18, and then you'd have to pass a bunch of tests to be able to board and get off the planes.
Apples and oranges, man. Had I claimed that students at public schools should be required to attend class 180 days per year until they were 18 and then have to pass a bunch of tests to graduate because public schools are "heavily subsidized" and "near monopolistic", it would be logical for you to insist that I apply this standard to everything that is "heavily subsidized" and "near monopolistic". But I didn't do that, so your comment doesn't apply to anything I said.

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Originally Posted by pigglet
public schools already have a rather special place in our society, and a special set of rules, as they are solely for the education of our children, etc. long story short, airports aren't the same thing as school. i can shennanigans.
Schools are solely for education. Airlines are solely for travel. If push came to shove, I'd argue something like this was far more appropriate in a school than on an airplane. It could lead to an exchange of ideas, which can aid the education process. An exchange of ideas isn't necessary to ride on an airplane from one place to another.

Anyway; my point was that if you're going to argue that people on a plane have a right to a certain amount of free speech because airlines are "heavily subsidized" and allegedly "near monopolistic", this should apply to people in any environment that meets this criteria.

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what i'm saying is that 1. you couldn't throw joe schmoe in jail in most towns for walking down the street wearing a shirt that says "fuck" on it, and i consider airports much closer to that type of public domain than to an expensive italian restaurant.
But a public school isn't public domain?

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2. even in the towns that have such laws on the books, I would rather that you couldn't throw monsieur de la schmoe in jail. i'd rather err on the side of tolerance, etc etc etc.
I agree. There should be no law prohibiting shirts that say "fuck" on them. Privately owned businesses, however, have every right to implement a dress code on private property.
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