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Ustwo · 10-20-2005, 08:26 PM

While I myself am an atheist I did not come to this conclusion lightly.

On my way I had a realization though. God must either not care about human suffering or must be a real asshole. Totally random acts leading to great suffering was just to hard to swallow as 'Gods grand plan'.

My conclusion was that seeing God as an asshole was pointless, as one would have to be amazingly petty to be both omnipotent and doing little acts of cruelty on purpose. That lead to me to believe that if there was a god, he just didn't CARE about human suffering, it didn't matter to him, and as such he could be ignored.

Finally I surmised that if god did in fact exist, he would have to be a real asshole for condemning one to hell for eternity for not believing in him when he has given us the brains to question him (and he doesn't bother to show up now and then) and since the concept of God the Asshole just doesn't seem to fit, I will assume I am safe in my choice right or wrong.

I do hope I'm wrong, oblivion does not seem inviting.

So to me suffering is not part of Gods plan, or being forsaken by God, but do to our own poor choices, bad luck (not that I believe in luck, just events with so many variables that the outcome is random for all intents), and the actions of others.

10-20-2005, 08:26 PM	#23 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	While I myself am an atheist I did not come to this conclusion lightly. On my way I had a realization though. God must either not care about human suffering or must be a real asshole. Totally random acts leading to great suffering was just to hard to swallow as 'Gods grand plan'. My conclusion was that seeing God as an asshole was pointless, as one would have to be amazingly petty to be both omnipotent and doing little acts of cruelty on purpose. That lead to me to believe that if there was a god, he just didn't CARE about human suffering, it didn't matter to him, and as such he could be ignored. Finally I surmised that if god did in fact exist, he would have to be a real asshole for condemning one to hell for eternity for not believing in him when he has given us the brains to question him (and he doesn't bother to show up now and then) and since the concept of God the Asshole just doesn't seem to fit, I will assume I am safe in my choice right or wrong. I do hope I'm wrong, oblivion does not seem inviting. So to me suffering is not part of Gods plan, or being forsaken by God, but do to our own poor choices, bad luck (not that I believe in luck, just events with so many variables that the outcome is random for all intents), and the actions of others. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.