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Originally Posted by Zyr
"Can't because he won't" is perfectly fine, if you assume that the universe is mechanical, that one thing leads to another.
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Quantum probability breaks determinism. The universe is not mechanical. The assumption is invalid. One things leads to another in a vague sense, but knowledge of the starting conditions, no matter how perfect, will not allow for perfect prediction for an indefinite period of time....
"won't because you can't" I take no issue with this direction of flow.
"cant because you won't" is the direction I take issue with.
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Originally Posted by Francisco
if the omniscient person knows it's going to happen, then it's going to happen.
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Sure.
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Originally Posted by Francisco
He's not forcing you to do it.
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Okey-Dokey.
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Originally Posted by Francisco
He just knows that you cannot NOT do it - you cannot do otherwise and you won't do otherwise.
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Unless, of course, the omniscient being knows you CAN not do it - you can do otherwise, but you won't do otherwise.
Since you won't do otherwise, the infalibility of the omniscient being remains intact.
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Originally Posted by Francisco
Neither can't or won't is caused by him.
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Especially the "can't". Since the "can't" is the part that's relevant to the making of choices and freedom of will, that you've apparently conjured it from sources unknown doesn't help move the discussion along.