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vermin · 10-15-2005, 01:50 PM

I watched the video three times and read all the posts in this thread up 'till here.

My thoughts:

You can stop mentioning the age of the man who resisted arrest. It's irrelevant. It took three cops to get him restrained, he's hardly "feeble".

Edit: Section in yellow was negated by watching the video a fourth time (see two posts down).

I saw violence on that tape but nothing I would call brutality. They weren't hitting him over and over again with clubs, they weren't tasering him multiple times, they were restraining him.

The part where it looks like the cop is punching him in the head: it looks to me like they were trying to get the guy to get put his arms behind his back so they can handcuff him.

There is some dispute as to whether this guy was publicly intoxicated or hadn't had a drink in 25 years. Irrelevant. He did something to draw law enforcement attention upon himself and didn't comply with orders. He needed to be restrained, he was restrained.

The fat bastard who assaulted the reporter should get the same punishment as any citizen who grabs lapells and yells. A slap on the wrist and a small fine. It was wrong to go so apeshit on the reporter, but the reporter wasn't really damaged.

Talk of citizens being at war with law enforcement, right-wing and left-wing extremists, revolutions, totalitarian states, etc. is all drama-queen bullshit. Fantasy-world premises (cop punishments = citizen punishments x 10) are ridiculous since we live in reality, not idealist la-la land. The only people at war with law enforcement are people attempting to do whatever they want regardless of what the law allows (and the over-zealous fuzz).

10-15-2005, 01:50 PM	#74 (permalink)
vermin Indifferent to anti-matter Location: Tucson, AZ	I watched the video three times and read all the posts in this thread up 'till here. My thoughts: You can stop mentioning the age of the man who resisted arrest. It's irrelevant. It took three cops to get him restrained, he's hardly "feeble". Edit: Section in yellow was negated by watching the video a fourth time (see two posts down). I saw violence on that tape but nothing I would call brutality. They weren't hitting him over and over again with clubs, they weren't tasering him multiple times, they were restraining him. The part where it looks like the cop is punching him in the head: it looks to me like they were trying to get the guy to get put his arms behind his back so they can handcuff him. There is some dispute as to whether this guy was publicly intoxicated or hadn't had a drink in 25 years. Irrelevant. He did something to draw law enforcement attention upon himself and didn't comply with orders. He needed to be restrained, he was restrained. The fat bastard who assaulted the reporter should get the same punishment as any citizen who grabs lapells and yells. A slap on the wrist and a small fine. It was wrong to go so apeshit on the reporter, but the reporter wasn't really damaged. Talk of citizens being at war with law enforcement, right-wing and left-wing extremists, revolutions, totalitarian states, etc. is all drama-queen bullshit. Fantasy-world premises (cop punishments = citizen punishments x 10) are ridiculous since we live in reality, not idealist la-la land. The only people at war with law enforcement are people attempting to do whatever they want regardless of what the law allows (and the over-zealous fuzz). __________________ If puns were sausages, this would be the wurst. Last edited by vermin; 10-15-2005 at 07:53 PM..