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Originally Posted by hulk
The irony is that if he had kept quiet, and not gone out of his way to help, he'd still be in the country living a happier life. It's hardly likely he'll have much of a home to go back to after 12 years abroad, isn't it?
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I don't care. If he'd come here legally, he wouldn't have to worry about what he's going home to.
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Originally Posted by justjess
1. Yes, he broke the law. I jaywalked today, too. Friday, I was speeding. And yes, I consider it that much of an issue.
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And had you gotten caught jaywalking or speeding, I doubt many people on here would be whining about it on your behalf. When you decided to speed, you KNEW you were breaking the law, and you KNEW you were taking the risk of getting caught. You did it anyway, and you got lucky.
He KNEW he was breaking the law by coming here illegally, but he did it anyway, and after all these years, his luck ran out.
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2. Want to send all the illegals home? Who's going to do all the cleaning, the maintenance, the cooking in restaurants, the harvesting? These people are so grateful for an opportunity to have work, they're willing to do what most American citizens are not. And believe me, the average business owner has NO problem taking advantage of their desperation. They're not living easy lives here, they are working their asses off for very little money.
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Wow, you're making a great case against allowing illegals to stay. Why on earth would we want to allow such a horrible system to continue?
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3. It's pretty easy to be all high and mighty about "he broke the law" when it's not your life, isn't it? People need second chances - in many cases, first chances.
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They're not killing him or sentencing him to life. They're sending him back where he started. That is the definition of a second chance.
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And it's not like our government is making it easy to get that chance. Most immigrants that I have spoken with (and I talk to a lot people in general, and immigrants specifically since that's what I do for a living) would be perfectly happy to do things legally, if only they COULD.
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If for whatever reason they can't, that's just too bad. We are not responsible for making sure the entire world has a better life, especially if it means a problem with our national security. Illegal immigrants are not US citizens (obviously). If they have issues with their home country, they need to take it up with THEIR government, or come here legally.
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I know a guy who works just about harder than anyone else I've met. He's an upstanding guy, has a lovely wife and kids, and has been working hard to become a legal permanent resident. Even though he's making less than any of you would ever accept as a salary, he put his hard earned money into lawyers to file for permanent residency. The lawyers gave him bad advice, told him he didn't need a new employment authorization card cause he was filing as a refugee (for various reasons, that was untrue), and generally left him to hang. Being the employer, we could not keep him on staff without legal work authorization. And now, he's got no job. Nothing. He paid taxes like you and I, he worked harder than we do, he's trying to do it right, but he's still screwed.
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And I know of 19 guys who destroyed the world trade center. Point being, for every "good honest decent" immigrant story you come up with I can come up with a counter. What this indicates is that there is a screening process for immigrants for a reason. If they come here illegally, that's a REAL good indication that they don't need to be here.
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Do you think creating a life and a job for himself was easy? It's not. Moving, learning a new language, a new set of societal rules, raising a family, and then being told too bad, you have to leave?
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No I don't and I do sympathise with his situation. I feel bad for him. But he came here illegally. He's not supposed to be here. He's not allowed to be here. "yeah but I LIKE him" is not a good enough reason to let him stay after he broke in to the country.