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Old 10-10-2005, 10:48 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by shakran
It's their country, not ours, and it's none of our damn business.
I beg to differ - it IS our business. It's our business, their business, Jordan's business, Israel's business, Saudi Arabia's business, Japan's business, China's business, Turkey's business, New Zealand's business, India's business, Brazil's business, South Africa's business, Russia's business, Canada's business - it's everyone's business. It's called Free Trade.
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Sure. Offer it. Don't force it on them with tanks and bombers. Big, BIG difference.
Going from a dictatorship to a representative form of government is traumatic. Look at it as necessary, therapeutic shock therapy for the mentally ill.

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And we get to the root reason so many support(ed) this war. Oil. It's their oil. Much as we'd like it to be, it's not our oil.
Are you aware that in countries around the world, there are foreign oil companies of every nationality drilling for oil. Sweden drills for oil in Nigeria, China and Russia have oil companies in South America, Japan has oil companies in Canada, Brazil drills for oil in Angola, etc. etc...It's good for business. And it creates jobs for both countries.

This is the kind of thing I don't understand about politicians. If Bush would actually take the time and explain the situation in an honest and straightforward matter, things would go so much smoother. Everyone on the planet benefits from a healthy, flourishing Iraq. There are no healthy, flourishing dictatorships in the world that I'm aware of.
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Invading Iraq to secure the oil is no different than Iraq invading Kuwait to secure the oil.
This is giving credibility to Saddam Hussein that I don't believe he deserves. He wasn't the successful leader of a prosperous country seeking honest trade relations, it was armed robbery. The only thing he offered the Kuwaitis was death or enslavement.
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Saudi Arabia is strongly developed economically. They're doing quite well off of their oil
For what its worth, Saudi Arabia ranks 69th in the world in GDP (per capita). Poland has a higher GDP. Croatia is just behind. The word "underachieve" comes to mind.
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We do not have the right to overturn another government just because it offends our delicate sensibilities.
Someone needs to take responsibility. I believe the rich countries of the world have a responsibility to help the poor countries of the world.
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You can justify the iraq war all you want with talk of bringing democracy to the people (they didn't want it)
8 million people voted for a say in their government. Given the chance, it appears they do want it.
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Besides, don't you think it's rather ironic that we say "hey Iraq, we think a system in which you are free to choose your own destiny is the best system, so we're not giving you a choice - we're going to FORCE that system on you."
Yes, the Vote was forced by removing the obstacle to Choice. In the absence of force, there would be no Vote. Therefore, in the absence of force, there would be no Choice. Return to Dictatorship.

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