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Old 10-06-2005, 07:16 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Yakk
London: 7.5 million people, 2.4 murder/100k, 574 assults/100k
Chicago: 2.8 million people, 15.65 murder/100k, 800 assults/100k

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cv3lma98.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago
http://www.techcentralstation.com/012003M.html

Larger city. Fewer assults per capita. Fewer murders per capita.

Oh, and London has had a recent spike in crime recently. Chicago has had a recent downswing.

Could you cite your sources?

Note also the scale of the differences. On one hand, assult differs by +/- 50%, with completely different rules for what constitutes assult and expected reporting behaviours. Murder, which tends to be noticed and reported with a pretty high rate of accuracy, differs by a factor of over 6.
We've done this before, I'm doing going to do it again anytime soon, so I did this...

www.google.com
london crime rate
first link

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London (CNSNews.com) - Annual statistics released by London's Metropolitan Police department have confirmed the British capital is in the midst of a serious crime wave, with a nearly 40 percent jump in street crime.

In 2001-02, police recorded more than 1 million total crimes and nearly 70,000 street crimes, a category that includes offenses such as muggings and purse snatchings. The street crime figure represents a jump of about 20,000 over the previous year. On average, there have been about 190 muggings per day in London over the past year.

In the same period, the number of rapes increased by 14 percent and both burglaries and car crime increased by about 5 percent.

Even the number of murders, a relatively rare crime in Britain, rose from 171 to 190, an increase of 11 percent. Crime detection rates fell slightly, from 15 percent to 14 percent. Londoners are about six times more likely to be mugged than New Yorkers, and statistics indicate that violent crime is on the rise across the country.
second link...

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New York's ex-mayor does not have a quick fix for London crime

FOR Londoners in a panic over crime, the arrival of New York's former mayor, Rudolph Giuliani, this week, could not have been better timed. Sir Rudy, in London to receive an honorary knighthood, received his gong as much for his record in cleaning up his city as for his inspirational leadership after September 11th. Tony Blair, the prime minister, David Blunkett, the home secretary, and anybody who could get to him was queuing up to hear how he managed to reduce crime by more than half while in office.

Murder aside, London's crime rate is far higher than New York's, and rising (see chart). Street crime has increased by more than a third over the past nine months. Muggings are up by 26%
They go on....

If you take out black-black gang murders the murder rate is lower too (and I'm not digging for it).

Many European cities were having similar issues, but again I'm not googling for ya
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