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Old 10-05-2005, 11:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by JinnKai
It IS a little contrary to your initial inspection, but overpopulation goes DOWN as quality of life goes up. There is no hypocrisy here.
Ok so, people add say 30 years to their lives. We're still having children at rates more than just replacement (maybe not in industrialized countries but we are.)

So my question is, how is it not overpopulation when you have people living 30 years longer and are still having children at the same rate. And even if families are not having as many kids there is still addition there. Then you add on people's lifespans being longer..... you have overpopulation....

An example:

You have 100 in country A. Life expectency is 70. You have 50 (30 couples of 18 - 35) that can have children, and on average each will have 2. You have 30 that are say 18 and younger and will have kids, you have 10 that are 35-60 and you have 10 that are 60 years or older.

But you get these people to live healthier and fewer die from car accidents and so on..... and it adds another 20 years to life.

So eventually you are adding another generation before death and instead of say seeing 80-60-40-20-birth we see 100-80-60-40-20-birth, so it is basic math that we are adding and therefore the overpopulationists that are the same proponents for living better healthier lives are add to overpopulation and are hypocrits.

Now even in the most backward countries where life expectency is 40, if we have them go by WHO and UN and we add life to them..... we are still talking about a net increase in world population.

So how can a net increase in world poulation not be considered overpopulation when we have (according to the UN.... almost reached maximum capacity now)?

So for the UN to promote better health and living conditions so that people may live longer is also adding to the overpopulation problem they keep preaching about in the next breath.

Adding 10 - 20 years to everyone's life and even if we maintain a 2 child family rule world wide (which is almost impossible), those children are living 10 - 20 years longer and thus their children have had children and so on.

I cannot feasibly see how anyone can argue that by adding years to life you are somehow decreasing or keeping population numbers the same.

I am not arguing whether WHO is right or wrong in saying people can live longer and we need to be healthier... not arguing that......

I am arguing that the same people who are so gung-ho to add years to life are the exact same people who argue that we are overpopulated or closing in on more population that raw materials can allow for.

Again, not arguing over the overpopulation theories, arguing over the hypocrasy I see there. Does noone else truly see this?
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