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My college roomate told me that her parents didn't take the children out to restaurants until they were 10. At that point they were told that if they misbehaved, the next time would be 18.
I personally go nuts over parents who cannot control their children in public. They seem to confuse no-discipline with love of their children when really, the opposite is true. Kids who are disciplined (with in reason of course) know that there parents care enough about them to set boundries.
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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis
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