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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
People here don't seem to know, or maybe just don't seem to grasp this fact. Being gay doesn't eliminate you from the kingdom of God. Some sects are tolerant of homosexuals. The catch is you don't act on it. Fact in point is the Catholic Church, the foundation of which is life, which revolves around a nuclear family, a father and a mother. Since God made it so men and women create life, not man and man, it is a natural step to marry and enter into that special sacrament with God. The issue is a matter of sex and abstaining. It's a sin for man and woman have sex outside of marriage in the church, marriage is centered around procreation and family; gays cannot procreate therefore no room for marriage.
Plus letting murders become preachers riff is tired and lame, one of christianitys focal points is the idea of forgiveness, what's wrong with forgiving someone who is truly sorry for their sins? If you don't believe they are sincere, that's on you, judgement is ultimately reserved for God. And besides Jesus didn't come for the righteous, he came for the sinners.
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I'm assuming you mean my post, in which I say, way to take it out of context.
Do I believe we should allow a murderer to become a pastor? Yes. If a convict is truly reformed and truly enters a ministry to do good works, great.
Rapists are a bit more dodgy because they plant a bomb that can blow up on somebody 3 years from now (AIDS). But if they make restitution with society and most of all, their victim, then yes.
let me point out one thing you post: <I>Some sects are tolerant of homosexuals. The catch is you don't act on it.</i> As a straight male, I used to believe this, when I was in high school. In fact, when people would throw around the the term, "you fag!" I would think that was stupid because I thought, "NOBODY is actually gay!" Then I went into the world as a naive pup and learned a few things.
Honestly, and I say this as a person who was educated by a Methodist college, who takes his walk seriously and recognizes he will always be a sinner, until recently I felt that homosexuality was a God given burden to people just like Job's frequent tests. I felt that homosexuals had to rise above it and conquer it. But then, there's love. Aside from attraction, there's love. Imagine stormtroopers coming into your house and taking that which you hold most dear. Is that right? Would an omniscient and omnipresent God who bases all decisions in LOVE do that? No.
Gay people are as natural as straight. I know this down to the very core of my being. And you absolutely can't command love as the trinity does, and then deny you the love of another. Even when God commanded a man to sacrifice his son, he recognized the love and provided a ram nearby to take the fall.
Sorry for the long winded response. Messing with love gets me all grrrrr.