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Originally Posted by alansmithee
I read her post. There's nothing there that would point to the slogan being illegal. And there's also no mention in the constitution of exclusionary practices being prohibited. And it's only exclusionary if people choose to think that. I don't recall the slogan being "In God we Trust, and we are forbidding anyone to believe otherwise." If someone sees that, they are being overly sensitive and should possibly look internally instead of trying to change everyone else into fitting in their world view.
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It seems to me that whatever you or i think about the constitutionality of the phrase is irrelevant. The courts, the actual interpreters of the constitution, don't agree with you. In fact, when ruling on "under god" in the pledge of allegiance, lower courts don't agree with you, and the SC has really done everything in its power to avoid having to rule on the matter because they apparently don't want to deal with the political aftermath of ruling the phrase unconstitutional.
It is pretty easy just to write people off as complainers and not think at all about what something may mean to them, but unfortunately, this is america, where everyone is constantly encouraged to change everyone else to fit their world view. This country wouldn't exist if everyone took your advice about "not changing everyone else to fit our world view". Imagine the founding fathers looking within themselves.
Even so, in this instance i fail to see how removing mention of a god from our money results in "changing everyone else to fit our world view". All it would really accomplish would be to remove a certain phrase from our money that is both meaningless and non representative of a certain portion of our populace. There are a great many people who do not put their trust in god, where is the sense in them being forced to use money created in their name, for their use, which attributes to them a religious belief of which they do not have? No one is saying that theists can't still in their heart of hearts tell themselves that america truly cares about their faith. To me it just seems a little empty to try to show your nondenominational diety how much you trust him/her/it by writing it on your money, as if this is the only way you can possibly convey such a message.
How would you feel if whenever someone complained of racism, the response was "You are being overly sensitive and should possibly look internally instead of trying to change everyone else into fitting in your world view."? I realize that we're talking about two separate issues. I'm just wondering if you'd have any problem with someone giving you that response? To me it just reeks of arrogance, and a refusal to actually address an argument on its merits.
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The "we" refers to anyone not bold enough to tell their diety that they trust him/her/it on their own.