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Originally Posted by smooth
OMG, if you guys spent half as much time researching things rather than just doing google searches in attempts to prove me wrong you'd quit wasting all of our time...
Before you make any calls, research the difference between Nation of Islam, Black muslims, and followers of Islam (all part of the definition you cited). THEN get back to me on whether you think muslism are only adherents to the theology of Islam. This has now become a case of RTFM or STFU.
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(Sigh) Some people won't even let you agree with them...
I choose not to accept your polite invitation, but I will provide some reading material for YOU:
Merriam-Webster
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Muslim
1 : an adherent of Islam
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Cambridge Dictionary
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Muslim [Show phonetics]
noun [C] (ALSO Moslem)
a person who follows the religion of Islam
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1. also Mos·lem ( mzlm, ms-) A believer in or adherent of Islam.
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Microsoft Encarta
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Muslim
Mus·lim
noun (plural Mus·lims)
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follower of Islam: somebody whose religion is Islam
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AskOxford.com (Compact Oxford English Dictionary)
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Muslim
(also Moslem)
• noun a follower of Islam.
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Islam
/izlaam/
• noun 1 the monotheistic religion of the Muslims, regarded by them to have been revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah. 2 the Muslim world.
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No, you read it correctly. One group of muslims are concerned that other muslims aren't adherents to the Islam theology. That's because non-Islam muslims exist...
...even more thought provoking is the notion that atheist muslims exist...which interestingly mirrors the existence of atheist Jews. Or even atheist Rabbis...giving rise to the claim that century old religions also work as ethnic identities for people.
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I was going to ask if, in the face of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you still stood by this statement:
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Originally Posted by smooth
2) these same people, along with others, usually can't seem to understand the difference between a fanatic religious segment of muslims, a non-fanatic religious segment of muslims, and the hinge of all this--that muslim is an ethnicity, not necessarily tied to the religion Islam.
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You've been kind enough to answer that already. If Sammy Davis Jr. were still alive, he'd probably be surprised to know that his ethnicity was Jewish, not African.
But I guess that's Sociology for you. It reminds me of this old joke:
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An old cowboy sat down at the bar and ordered a drink. As he sat sipping his drink, a young woman sat down next to him. She turned to the cowboy and asked, "Are you a real cowboy?"
He replied, "Well, I've spent my whole life, breaking colts, working cows, going to rodeos, fixing fences, pulling calves, bailing hay, doctoring calves, cleaning my barn, fixing flats, working on tractors, and feeding my dogs, so I guess I am a cowboy."
She said, "I'm a lesbian. I spend my whole day thinking about women. As soon as I get up in the morning, I think about women. When I shower, I think about women. When I watch TV, I think about women. I even think about women when I eat. It seems that everything makes me think of women."
The two sat sipping in silence.
A little while later, a man sat down on the other side of the old cowboy and asked, "Are you a real cowboy?"
He replied, "I always thought I was, but I just found out I'm a lesbian."
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