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Old 09-20-2005, 03:58 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Lebell
Ratbastid,

I would actually say that Hitler (who referencing is entirely valid in a thread like this) strongly speaks against your argument of moral relativism.

From what I know of him (and I know somewhat more than the average person), if anyone can be called "evil", it's him. Had Germany gotten what they wanted, an armistice with them in control of Western Europe, 6 million people would still be murdered in the most brutal fashion.

And I do believe he passes your "Dick" test

I really would encourage you to read "People of the Lie", as it addresses and allows for exactly what you talk about.
Though i doubt this would be Ratbastid's point, here's my complication to that assessment.

Is there a sinner so bad, that even Jesus cannot save them?

Is there sin so grave that it can *completely* wipeout the image of God that we are created in from the one who commits it?

If salvation depends on us not sinning *that* much, whatever *that* might be...i'd say we're all in a heap of trouble.

I don't argue for the absolute universality of redemption...but that none of us is ever driven so far from God that redemption would not be possible if we chose it.
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