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Originally Posted by alansmithee
Again, this is totally wrong. You want to ignore race as an issue in socioeconomic status because doing so helps keep blacks down.
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And you need to stop calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist. Where do you get off interpreting people's motives for them? How do you know he's trying to keep the blacks down? Simple answer? You don't know that, and to assume that is racist in and of itself. Knock it off.
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No, in a "colorblind" society, racism is perpetuated under the guise of blacks not being as "qualified".
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Your definition of colorblind is vastly different from the rest of the world's. You would perhaps gain more respect for your arguments if you at least used the same dictionery as the rest of us.
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And your idea of looking at people individually is naive and ridiculous.
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Yes, we can tell you think that since you insist on painting all white people as minority-suppressing racist monsters.
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You can't implement public policy on a one-on-one basis. I will agree that not all blacks are in need of AA, but because a couple don't need it doesn't invalidate the program.
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You want your cake and eat it too. Either AA is a program meant to help those who are socioeconomically disadvantaged or it is not. On the one hand you say it is because of all the socioeconomically poor blacks. On the other hand you say that a poor white guy shouldn't get the same benefit simply because he is white and someone who looked like him 200 years ago had slaves. Then you tell us that even if the black guy is not poor and doesn't need any help, he should get it anyway. Your position on this is either not well thought out or, more likely, drawn solidly along racist lines.
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Again, you try to take on the role of sympathizer, but what you type makes it abundantly clear that it's not the case. You are still assuming that racism is something that is in the history books, and not an ongoing thing.
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No one is saying there is not a problem with racism in this country. We are saying it's not as big as it used to be (and unless you can dig up proof of multiple lynchings PER DAY in addition to multiple other abuses that no longer happen, you can't refute that). And we are saying that if we want the racial relations to improve then people have to learn to disregard skin color differences - something you are not willing to do. And that means that you are happilly stepping in line with the others who wish to perpetuate racism.
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It wouldn't have been my great-great-great grandfather lynched by the KKK, it would've been my GRANDFATHER. And I'm only 24.
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I'm sorry for your grandfather, but I did not kill him. Nor did anyone else here. We will not take the blame for his murder. That's as stupid as it would be if I found out your grandfather killed my grandmother and then demanded reparations from YOU. YOU are not responsible for what your ancestors did, just as I am not responsible for what MY ancestors did. I refuse to be punished for a crime that I did not commit.
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Racism didn't die with the dinosaurs. You say that young people would blame setbacks on their race, but you want to ignore any racism in society in favor of making sure that whites maintain their current favored status.
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Again a racist statement. Your racism is quite apparent by now, we do not need more examples. Until you learn to see people as individuals rather than the Great White Evil, you will never be able to approach a discussion of this nature with any hint of rationality.