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Old 09-17-2005, 09:15 AM   #34 (permalink)
alansmithee
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Originally Posted by martinguerre
Assuming a nice big happy world, where bunnies and squirrels lives. Bunnies, way back when, did some mean things. They enslaved the squirrels, and came up with a whole bunch of clap trap science, stereotypes, and ideas to help them cope with that. They actually started to believe that squirrels weren't smart, or able to be trusted.

Fastforward a bit. Squirrls and bunnies are now on equal legal footing. (I'm using a hypothetical, in part because i don't believe that statement to be true in the real world.) They can get jobs, buy homes, etc. But none of them are really in the good old bunnies network. On top of that, becuase bunnies are not used to seeing them succeed, they often assume (and sometimes based on those old, self-justifying ideas the bunnies came up) that squirrels just don't succeed. Some squirrels even beleive this, and under social pressure disidentify with school. The pressure of trying to disprove a sterotype that carries so much weight is distracting and emotionally draining. And so bunnies go on hiring bunnies....

No actual small furry creatures were harmed in this thought experiment. Do not attempt to recreate the history of modern racism with your pets.

Does this sound like a self-righting system? One that will with time, even itself out? Your assertion #2 assumes that the workplace, the school, and other forums of opportunity would be equal opportunity if left to their own devices. Pyschological study of modern racism doesn't bear that out. Most people (regardless of race, ironically) still have some levels of cognitive or affective racism...ideas or emotions that serve as barriers to those percieved as outsiders. Short of dealing with that legacy of institutional slavery...i don't know how you can claim that the system could be self-correcting.
I would like to add something to this example (which I think is very good). The other problem that has emerged from previous discrimination and cultural destruction carried out by "bunnies" against "squirrels" is that after being continuously denied free access to things required to succeed in bunny society (education, literacy, proper speech) the squirrels have largely developed their own culture that decries these things as bad rather than face being constantly not allowed to do them by bunnies. So now, reading or doing well at school is seen as a "bunny" thing in many squirrel areas, and those who do either are shunned in both the bunny and squirrel areas. So essentially, failure has been ingrained into the squirrel culture. That won't be changed without drastic measures.
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