some good ideas in there...but hmmm maybe we should have a clear, concise definition of "REAL sex" before we continue...seems a lot of ppl have different ideas of what it is and isnt!
for example:
-are you following the dictionary definition? if so, which one?
-how about how different religions perceive sex?
-it seems that a whole lot of it depends on your state of mind and that of your partner -- what do you think??
-how does that apply to your own ethics and morals?
maybe that was the point of the original question, though