Originally Posted by pigglet

Gilda et al, I have a question about the bolded. You seem to be taking a position that "the nature of someone's genitals" is of no consequence...that it's almost a superfluous part of someone's identity. I do not understand this position, in the light of your own gender-orientation, and what I would presume to be a recognition that the sexual gender orientation of an individual is something which is special, and which comprises a very important part of their core identity.

This seems to me that the initial shock, and the question of whether or not finding out that you had sexual intercourse with someone of a gender you are not sexually attracted to, under the premise of deception, can be very psychologically damaging. Furthermore, this damage (which I would be comfortable calling harm) is reasonable, and predictable, as far as I can understand. What if you (or I, for that matter) found out that your SO was actually a biological sister you never knew you had. She was aware of your relationship, and sought you out for some reason or another. Her motivations are irrelevant, I think, to your initial response. Which might be akin to "I am disgusted by incest."

I don't think this girl's action justify the murder, or the serious degree of abuse, by a long shot. I don't think it would be my style to give her a serious ass whipping, but I might. I know I would be super pissed off in the most serious fashion to the nth degree. If I slapped the taste out of her mouth, I really don't think that's the worst thing in the world.

None of this negates the fact that these guys took it way too far, and they deserve very serious justice. I fail to understand how you can essentially state that her deception in the area of sexuality and gender-orientation is essentially an inconsequential point.