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Old 09-15-2005, 07:39 PM   #54 (permalink)
Gilda
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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
Only if you ignore that she deceived them. She was first in line to prevent the harm. And although my reaction to how they discovered the fact is revulsion, they did deserve to know and might've found out eventually through more acceptable means.
No need to ignore that. Her having male genitals did nobody any harm. The only harm that came from this situation came as a result of her muderers discovering a secret she wished to keep, through forcible compulsion, against her will.

I believe it's a good idea to know a partner's sexual history before being physically intimate for a variety of reasons, and that, for their own protection, transsexual women are much better off if they aren't intimate with men who do not know their history.

However, this was casual sex, and neither partner seemed to be overly concerned with knowing the other person's history.

I think the same standards should apply as to a natal woman. Under what circumstances should a woman reveal to her partner the intimate details of her past, especially those that are emotionally sensitive? That's the standard I think should apply, and there doesn't seem to have been that degree of emotional intimacy here.

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I feel for how agonizing her last moments must have been (before and after the violence), but I disagree that she didn't do anything harmful.
Can you explain this? I really cannot understand how what she did hurt anyone. If she had concealed that she had an STD, that would be different, but the nature of her genitals? If you're kissing or trading power hits or even having oral or anal sex, why should that matter?

I was discussing the same basic issue with a friend a couple of weeks ago, and asked him if he found out that his girlfriend was transsexual, how would he react? His reply was that it wouldn't matter, and he wouldn't end the relationship. He would, however, if she weren't Jewish.

The point being that there are all kinds of things that a person might find out about a partner that hold the potential to offend one's partner or interfere with the relationship, even to the point that, had this been known at the outset no relationship would not have occurred. Such as personal history, sexual history, issues of race or religion or political beliefs, class, national origin, etc.. None of these things are harmful to our partners except in their minds, and none of them justify the slightest degree of violence at their revleation.

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